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I get sick and tired of gay people saying the Christians are against them. some people look at homosexuality as being the same as being Spanish or French or African American. It is NOT the same. As a Christian I see it as being the same as a thief or adulterer and I dont think its right for people top tell my children that its OK to be Gay when I believe it is totally wrong Why dont you just teach our children that "being a rapist or murder is Ok because thats just whao they are" It is wrong no matter how you try to word it Homosexuality is WRONG



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YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT LESBIANISM.WHO THE HELL DID RAPE IRAQI PRISONERS IN ABU GHRAIB???.THE CRIMINALS WERE STRAIGHT MEN & A FEW STRAIGHT WOMEN.SO NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!LESBIANS AND GAYS ARE HUMANE!



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Hi Free Speechers,
I know this dialog is old, but I'm trying to make some new friends (buddies) on the free speech site. I have added buddies whose opinions I agree with. whose info on topics I know nothing about, and like this topic to which Freedomland posted, I totally disagree with and totally agree with him/her.

Homosexuality seems to be 1 of those things that people can't just agree to disagree. So much seems to be invested despite Christian truths available on both sides. Freedomland, I got my ire up at the author of the post you were responding to and yet, I asked him to be my buddy as well because I want to dialog and learn from those who have a different viewpoint than mine ON ANY SUBJECT.

Liv ing in a committd lesbian relationship for the last 17 yrs, I want my rights. Living as a saved Christian, I don't think I am doomed to hell. I sin like EVERY OTHER HUMAN BEING, I repent and try to live a decent Christian life. God hates me no more than any other human, including the author of the letter yopu were responding too. We can only try to teach him the values of love, tolerance, avoiding judgement of others, etc. I have just subscribed to a great site called "Out in Scripture". Comes as an emailing or you can get additional info on the website. Just Google it.

Hope you add me as a buddy despite the fact I'm probably older than you. Now if I can figure out a way that he will see the post as well.

Take Care,
Karen M. (karmona)-new member of FSTV

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HATE - Is NOT A FAMILY VALUE.



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Ok...since this seems to be lead by a christian group lets start here. Your right ..if your going to believe in the bible..believe it all...like where you should stone a disobident child to death. Or selling your daughter into slavery...oh..you believe it all right..or having long hair is shameful...hmmm ever seen a picture of jesus...you christians and your hypocrisy. It amazes me that you find your way onto a website complety based on freedom..and find a way to try and take freedoms from poeple...who are you to "PASS JUDGEMENT" on anyone. guess you threw that part out of your book as well. What about the 42 books that never made the final cut?...guess you didnt need them either...hell there only your gods words...talk about picking and choosing. As far as gays poeple....frankly it isnt any of my buisnes what somone else does..as long as it doesnt hurt me...or my family...with a closed mind like I have seen here...maybe your on the wrong site...try dictators are us down the hall...have a nice day.



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what exactly are they repenting? they're christianity? truthfully the only thing I regret is the amount of time I've spent replying to trolls like you dg.



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You are so right Denverfiddler!
I was amazed at how most of the worth while topics in these forums get no response at all! I guess it enough to knowe that they are at least getting viewed! But it seems like no one wants to comment on these topics... ...isnt that silly! I recently started my own community here on fstv.rog and I'm havign trouble gettign geeklog to work the way i wanted it to so i tried to ask other community owners for help! Thats when i found out that 12 out of the 18 other communities have been dormant since their inception! not that these subjects are not worthy of discussion but it seems that no one cares...isnt that a shame! however topics like this one or racism get alot of responses... ... some valid some ignorant! I guess thats cause topics like these spark the hate in people! I am truly sad about this fact!
Anyway I respect your views denverfiddler and i really dont think this topic is worth further review... ...especially cause it was started with a hateful ignorant statement by WADE!
P.S. hey if you know anything about geeklog please E-mail me or check out my community called GlobalGeeks!
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lol, your right....

Christian gays are funny, I guess they think they will repent for being gay right before they die.



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And hey DenverFiddler
telling someone to shut the F@%K up isnt the same as telling them what to think! And please reserve your labels for someone worthy of them I'm am not a liberal or a conservative i believe that congress and the state legislatures should be focussing on more important issues like why people are starving here in america, domestic violence, global warming, and why the hell did we let that murdering bastard Georgie steal the election and then kill thousands of innocent people....shouldnt we be teaching our children more important things than weather its ok for you to be a$$ slamming you life partner in the neather regions! Your thoughts pelase?



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And bart... ... I hope this doesnt effect my chances of getting on the freespeech website administrative panel.But dude ? you make it sound like The Lord jesus actually had sex with peter? The scripture says that they were asleep in the boat as the storm came apon them! It does not say that right before jesus calmed the storm that he gave peter a rim job! ( WTF ) Im not even going to go there with the subject of Gay christians.....what a hoot that is! oxymoronical, hypocritical, If you believe the truth you must believe the whole thing not just selective parts that you agree with.this is the basis of faith you simply believe it or you dont .for a homosexual to say that they beleive in the hebrew God of the holy bible is blasphemy...what? you believe everything but the part that said your not supposed to be gay? Oh wait a minute...this is why alot of gay people say they believe in A God not THE god! So for you to even mention the name jesus or the bible and then claim that jesus was some how sleeping with peter is Absolutely ignorant!
Your thoughts please?



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Adendum to my last posts on homosexuality....i wish the person who started this thread would have shut his mouth too.......and he was gay bashing.........I dont believe that this subject is worthy offurthur discussion
I dont hate gay people ..........i just dont have the same belief system as they do and as long as they are going to parade through the streets of america telling every one about it then they will be targets!!!!!! like i said in the begining you have to choose your battles!



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I'm not a gay person but I support the rights of gay people to live as everyone else does - i.e., to love whom they choose to love and have the same benefits as other committed couples (by this I mean those who are "married" in the traditional sense).

I believe that gayness is neither wrong in any moral sense nor against nature's intention. As far as the moral sense, it depends on what you believe. You are free to believe what you want, but there are many compelling and convincing arguments in favor of gay lifestyles. As for it being against nature's intention - this is simply and provably false. Animals do it, humans have always done it all throughout human history, and just because sex is a means of procreation does not mean that that is its only purpose. Nature also made it pleasurable so that we could experience pleasure together and express love for one another - and to that extent, nature does not care if the two experiencing pleasure together are of the same sex or not. If it was against nature's intention, gay sex wouldn't be fun. Certainly, every heterosexual act is not about making babies.

As for it being a manifestation of the feminization of America, to be gay does not imply a more feminine or masculine nature per se - as both women and men can see themselves as possessing more of the nature of the opposite sex than their own. Again, all throughout history there have been examples of gay individuals and of entire societies that supported and condoned homosexuality. The fact that this is not widely known is more a result of the suppression of this kind of information from our general consciousness than from any inherent rightness or wrongness about it.

Hey, if there's a move toward the feminine in our general consciousness and it results in more tolerance and openness toward the leanings of certain individuals, then that's a good thing. I'm all for balance.



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here is the thing people we all need to choose are own battles in this world! Is it natural to be gay in certain circumstances... yeah i guess so/ Is it right to tell other people that its ok.well hell no... that would be the same as me telling you that if you dont go to my church you are going to go to hell! Obviously you wouldnt believe that but maybe i do.....in the same reguard you may thinks its ok to be gay but i do not.instead of forcing you will and your values on other people around you in order to politicise or justify your personal spiritual or political agenda why dont you just be gay and shut the F%@K up..
i dont go around the globe telling others what they should think about or believe in simply because i dont feel that i have the right to.......please have some common sense and do the same........gayness is not like a plague or some new software that everyone needs to warned about or enlightened about.....it has no place in the media, schools, government, or the work place...do you think that letting everyone know that you're gay will get you a better job, make you a better worrior in combat, make people listen to you in the media.....or even worse --->become required reading in our nations schools! (WTF)
dude being gay is like liking motley crue the band.....not every body does but it doesnt make headlines around the globe and they are not teaching my kids about nikki six and his life !being gay doesnt make you special just different.well welcome to the frikin club...we are all different! And like forest gump I believe thats all i have to say about that!



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dude, what are you talking about:
you said: "i dont go around the globe telling others what they should think about or believe in.."

you just did, you said "Just be gay and shut the fuck up". read your own post. guess that makes you a hypocrite.

I get pretty annoyed with libertarians who complain about not having free speech for their own views, but then tell other people to "shut up" when they exercise free speech.



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Oh c'mon, heterosexuality is part of the dominant culture. You don't have to announce you're heterosexual, everyone assumes it until you say otherwise. Every cheesy hollywood movie is filled with heterosexual subplots. Theres one exception currently and thats brokeback mountain.

Oh my god! Would those heteros just SHUT UP! What they do in their bedroom is there own business, but do they have to parade their hetero filth in my face?



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please fanfair what im trying to say is exactly what you said.what goes on in your bedroom is your bussiness keep it there...its funny that you would use the term PARADE huh.lets see do heterosexual people have a look at me im straight pride day or a im hetero please give me attentoin pride PARADE ! next we will have a national gay pride awarness month... your statement was a hipocritical one to say the least you want straight people to shut up but yet you and your friends have a special day...have special parades.and you want to shoove your lifestyle and your culture down my throat? You made a comment about everything is based on the status quo i.e. hollywood products so on and so forth...! dude get a history lesson will you........weather you believe in god or not doesnt matter to me.but here is the thing...you have a willie for a reason.women have a vagina for a reason and it doesnt stop at procreation.there is a higher and greater purpose for the human anatomy! the reason why everything is based on a hetero sexual world is because about 90% of the worlds former guests were all hetero,.........being gay is a new thing .another one of your proponents for gay awarness said that animals do it too........please we are not animals we have the ability to reason we have an opposable thumb we have choice not instinct and conditioning! just because some dogs my bang eachother is hardly an argument for naturalistic views of gayness! i think that most GAY people would agree that the animal analogy hardly supports your argument! there is a reason why they call it an alternative lifestyle the operative word being alternate!
the moralistic and academic premis behind the concept of heterosexuality is sound! and makes good sense when young people start to ask questions things like mommy where did babies come from? if we stick to the heterosexual scientific explanation we dont have to confuse our children with all of this psychological and political banter.imagine answering a child and then the next question is this.if thats where babies come from than wheres my daddy.how come i have two mommies? hence the programmign begins and thats what it is its psychological mantel rape to explain to a child about homosexuality in order to justify your lifestyle! It is an influencial point of view wich only hurts a child in the long run.bringing things life there self identity into question !
So please........i dont hate gay people....i dont care what you do untill you start marching through my son's classroom with your political agenda ! FanFir said to shut up and keep our sexual preferences to our selves well alls im asking is for you all to do the same!!!



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First, I must say that your comparison of homosexuality to rape and murder is absurd. Gays certainly can't help the fact that they are gay. Though, it is still ridiculous to compare homosexuality with race.

I am NOT a Christian, but I still oppose homosexuality for the sole fact that it is erroneous; homosexuality is not what was intended by nature. I believe homosexuality to be a manifestation of the feminization of America.

Religious reasons for opposing homosexuality — or anything else for that matter — are not rational. No one is ever going to listen to your arguments if you have no reason behind them.