I think you should know the candidate, Barack Obama
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Honolulu , Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya , and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita , Kansas. No joke! Look into it!
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.
When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father Returned to Kenya.
His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim From Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia.
Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta.
He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.
He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best.
In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam.
Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the EXTREMIST Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
Please forward to everyone you know. The EXTREMIST,RADICAL Muslim TERRORISTS have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level.
Someone should tell Oprah she's sleepin' with the enemy.
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I don`t care at all.I will
I don`t care at all.I will still vote for Mr.Obama.Nobody is forcing you,if you don`t like Obama,vote for MCCAIN!.Obama`s book "hope"is amomg the best sellers this year.Senator Barack is polite,educated.{GO ON SPREADING RUMORS AGAINST OBAMA, MOTIVATED BY JEALOUSY THAT HE~S DOING QUITE WELL,NOTHING WILL CHANGE MY POINT OF VIEW ABOUT HIM}.ALRIGHT VOTE FOR MC CAIN,NO BODY IS FORCING U TO VOTE FOP OBAMA!
So, if he were elected and,
So, if he were elected and, say, nuked London, you'd still support him? I'm not sure, so I'm asking, is that what you're saying here?
Obama
I have no problem with Obama religious choices over the years. I attended and studied several religions before deciding that they all preached the same stuff basically. My problem with Obama is that he is liar, He said he would run a different kind of Campaign and all I see is another Democratic puppet nobody that gives good speeches and the only reason anyone knows who he is is bacause the bias media had choosen to put his face all over the television for the past year. What has he done Nothing what has he said nothing. Another Democratic puppet!!
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Google "one big Fixx"
Ronald Gascon
muslim school
I went to a school full of affluent mormons who were staunch republicans . There were many pro-republican clubs on campus. Seeing their fanaticism made me want to combat the right wing agenda.
As for following a sect of Islam that extremists also follow, that does not make him an extremist. I consider myself a christian and there are anti-choice people who picket abortion clinics in my faith and even my church. Does that mean I do the same ? No. I simply interpret the bible differently than they do.
Barack Obama is a criminal.
Mr. Obama made #8 of the Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians for 2007.
"Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law."
quoted from-
http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007
1st... Obama was enrolled in
1st... Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the extremist radical Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.
2nd... Yes I do love Ron Paul but didn't say anything about him in this post.
3rd... I am not a bigot. I respact the words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.(wasn't he muslim?),Mahatma Gandhi and his message of peace and tranquillity, and Dalai Lama for his message of love and compassion. I treat all people like I want to be treated.
What really scares me is the school where he was taught the same that way these "terrorists" where taught.
4th... Isn't it sacreligeous in any religeon to change to another faith? FACT- it is writen on the face of the muslim mosk on Elston Ave. in Chicago, near my house, it is writen for all to see in both arabic and english, "NO OTHER GOD IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP" of course they mean ALLAH. But all religions don't wan't you to even think of other "Gods" (except Budists). Really I could care less as long as they get along with everyone else. There are no shootings or murders near this mosk, they are peacefull people that just wanna live in freedom. I agree, but to call me a bigot and to say I hate muslims is obsurd.
5th... HA, I just read Remy she is right about me. And Oops Bart just posted my mistake that slipped by me the first time.
I HUMBLELY APPOLOGIZE TO ALL MUSLIMS OUT THERE WHO READ MY POST... SORRY... PEACE BE WITH YOU ALWAYS. I WILL MAKE THE CORRECTION.
SINCERELY,
"A"agent green
Hold on a second here
Hold on a second here people. First of all I resent very much the generalization of libertarians. Secondly what hate speech? Where does he say all muslims are bad? Thirdly if Barack Obama isn't an enemy of America then who is? He's as much of a greedy bastard as any politician I've ever seen. Like most he's said he wouldn't end the war before his second term. What does that tell you? I really hate to see people's character judged solely on one single opinion on one topic. You wouldn't care much for it if it happened to you. It's not like he's lying here. The Extremist Muslims have in fact said they plan on destroying America from the inside out. Perhaps, (if I am correct about my interpretation of what he's saying) he should've used the word "extremist" or "fundamentalist" in regards to which Muslims he's talking about. I could be wrong, but I find it difficult if not impossible to believe he meant what you think he did.
With all due respect (and much is due), freedom of religion is bullshit. The very first thing people lose when they become faithful is their freedom, whether they be Christian, Muslim, Jewish or whatever. The act of submission or lack thereof is the key in determining who is faithful and who is not. People can believe what they want, I'm not saying otherwise, but don't call religion freedom, because very simply it's not. If anything religion blinds the masses. Look what's happening with those people on the right who want desperately for a Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee presidency, and still love Bush to this day. These are for the most part good people and bright. Yet somehow they think Mitt Romney would bring progress to America.
I cannot believe three good people whom I respect greatly on this community would bash one of their own seekers of the truth like this for little or nothing. I applaud the man for posting this. It took guts whether people like it or not, and whether I agree with it or not.
Jas, what about the hateful atheists? Are they not just as cruel as the hateful Christians? Why do you not mention them? Indeed where I come from they are the worst of all haters. No, so you know I'm not calling you a hateful atheist just in case you got the impression.
Remember one thing people. Everyone claims to have the truth but very few ever speak it. At the very least give this man the respect he deserves for having the guts to tell you what he thinks. And I'm no better, but it took your posts to tell me this. I've done the same thing over and over again, and probably will in the future.
True and thanks for your
True and thanks for your support Remy, but I did make a terrible mistake in the spur of the moment. Thank you Bart for pointing out my flaw with my fast typing and also running late for work didn't help either. Haste makes waste.
Really bad journalism on my part. I read it quick and threw the story on this site right away this mornin'. When I came home for lunch, I was shocked at the comments, tried to make corrections and the story was pulled off the site before I was through. At least I didn't see it on the screen, so I wrote my retraction then left for work. Thanks again, to both of you. The story is still getting negative points... oh well!
SINCERELY,
"A"agent Green
Happy to do it man. I know
Happy to do it man. I know exactly what it's like to be ganged up on, and it seemed like with each reply the harsh criticism was snowballing, and it wasn't fair because it simply couldn't have been true. I've done a few social experiments on this site, and it seems to me that a lot of times they give negative points to what's right and positive points to garbage like my silly stories or what have you. A few examples. My post S.E.2 right now has 2 positive points. I'd love it if the people who actually gave it an up arrow would explain why, it basically declares undying and unconditional loyalty to Bush, it was incredibly hard to sit and write. My RDS story has 9 positive points. It has nothing to do with anything and people gave it positives. In fact it's probably the most vulgar piece of writing I've done here. True stories too. My post on Charlie Chaplin speaking great things with incredible passion has a minus 24. My post where I quote myself over and over praising myself with little remorse has a positive 3. (This has become very interesting to me now, I'm not ready to stop) Here's a good one, my "I dislike Rudy very much" post, which is just a video of firemen talking about Rudy and the radios, and directly from his site the garbage promises he made has a minus 8. I have no idea why in the hell these numbers are the way they are. Who's voting? Really if you vote on something, especially a negative, wouldn't the proper thing to do be to comment and put your own ideas out there? So Aagent don't take it too seriously. I don't think people really know what they're doing. I'm waiting for the post where I have more minuses than reads. That'll be a fun day. Ok, I've been longwinded and dominated the comments board for long enough. Have fun!
How Bizarre
I remember that your post suddenly disappeared for a couple minutes and couldn't see it around 2pm (MST) and thought that maybe you pulled it off for yourself. And then it reappeared a bit later. Maybe our community site was hiccuping whiling you're trying to make the changes. That was really strange. As an admin of this site, I can assure you we didn't pull your content from this site.
That was strange, it
That was strange, it happened to my post about Echols as well at the same time. Don't get me wrong I'm not accusing you, just agreeing that it was weird.
oh and thanks for posting remy!
I tend to get carried away in debate without saying that I do enjoy the debate.
One more thing which might not have been clear in my reply. The reason that freedom of religion is important is not because perhaps someone believes there are some religions that are superior to the religion that is endorsed by the State; I may believe that Radical Faeries are a better religion than Fundamentalist Christianity because there are no strict dogmas and no sexual hang-ups. However, I believe that everyone should be allowed to practice their own faith or belief or un-religion and not be persecuted or judged by it. That is freedom of religion (also known in some corners as freedom FROM religion--they are one and the same.)
If you re-read aagent green's secind paragraph, he is condemning Obama not even for his own religion but for his parent's religion. That is indefensible!
Indeed thanks to you too! I
Indeed thanks to you too! I get carried away quickly as well but I do love a good debate, just so long as it's for the most part or in total respectful.
I agree everyone should be allowed to believe as they do.
Granted you do have a good point here about Obama's parents religion. However, Aagent is correct again in saying that Obama has become an apostate and used Christianity to gain political ground. To me that is also indefensible.
I'll have to look up these Radical Faeries. I seem to recall hearing something about them, but....
wrong, remy
Hey Remy,
1. please do not mischaracterize aagent green's post, in it he says:
he doesn't say "fundamentalist" or "extremist" muslims, he says muslims. All I can critique is his actual words, not what we think he meant.
2. freedom of religion is not bullshit, it is the cornerstone of the constitution that libertarians claim to respect. If you think that all religions are anti-freedom than you are ignorant. Do some reading. I suggest reading about the Quakers, the Radical Faeries, Buddhism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers
especially: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers#Testimonies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_faeries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
and this wikipedia post on Anarchism and Religion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_religion
Wikipedia is terrible. I
Wikipedia is terrible. I wouldn't go there to learn about wikipedia.
If I were to go through all your journal entries and everything would I find a similar case? I bet I would. You'd find some cryptic stuff with me that you could easily point out.
All religions adhere to a moral code. If there is no moral code for people to submit to, it's not a religion. In religion morality is not subject to interpretation, and the faithful must submit.
In regards to what he said, he's right. What you're missing is the fact that these people want to change our constitution to suit themselves. If someone doesn't want Muslim law, they aren't Muslim. It's sad but true. If someone doesn't want Christian law they aren't Christian. No one can sit by and watch abortion be legal, not wanting to change it, then claim to follow Christ. I'm sorry but Aagent is absolutely right. It's precisely why we have seperation of church and state, which actually is the cornerstone of the constitution. You know this bart. This is ridiculous. What's the real reason for attacking his post?
By the way I'm in Eastern Pa, you think I don't know about Quakers?
By another way.. Why is it this site is messed up today? It seems I try to post something and I'm not authorized? I'm just not sure if you're aware of this or if it's just me.
ask Ron Paul for freedom (for everything but religion)
You showed your true stripes in this post, always ranting on about freedom, freedom, freedom!
But when it comes to freedom of religion? You spew this hate speech that all muslims and atheists are out to take over your country.
Typical libertarian bullshit: "What do we want? Freedom! Who do we want it for? White, Christian Bigots! Whoo Hoo! Ron Paul!"
disappointed
Aagent Green,
I'm really saddened by the hurtful bigotry of this post. There may be many reasons to oppose an Obama candidacy, but his religious affiliation is not one of them. It's true that danger exists in fundamentalists of many stripes: hateful, anti-American Muslims; hateful, Zionistic Jews; hateful, militaristic Hindus; hateful, anti-semitic, racist, misogynistic Christians. No one sect owns this market, for sure. Hitler's master plan to wipe out Jews (& queers, etc.) was a obscene perversion of Christ's teachings, and Muslim plots to kill all Americans is an equal perversion of Muhammad's. To equate Obama and all Muslims with this kind of fundamentalism is not just wrong, it's pure bigotry.
I had hoped that we as a people had come much farther than this. You post is hurtful and dangerous. It slanders not only Obama. It plunges a knife deep into the heart of all Muslims who have done not a thing to deserve this. Most of all, thinking like this kills the humanity of all of us. It paves the way for hate crimes and war against innocents. We, and you, can do better.
jas, I refuse to trust Obama because of his religion!
I went to Catholic schools all my life and even to a Catholic seminary for 3 years...and if it is one thing I know it is that once a Catholic...always a papist. Obama is only trying to use double reverse psychology by saying that he is not a Muslim...so people will be convinced he is a Muslim and then when he gets elected...he will take all of his orders from the pope. In fact for all we know Obama is secretly a prince(a cardinal) of the Catholic church who has given himself a dispensation so that he can have a wife and get away with having sex too. And that can be explained quite rationally by saying just take a look at him. Isn't it obvious that he isn't a full blooded ofay and so he is probably strung out on extenze to enlarge that certain part of the male anatomy? I say perhaps. But the thing that really pisses me off...is I'll bet he gets his for free.
However you do make an excellent point that real Christians do not kill people. Real Christians just sit around with their thumb up their asshole watching and cheering on the murder of others as long as they feel safe...or at least until another "they" come for them as well...but "...by then no one is ever left to speak up."
Personally, I could deal with a half white man in the white house who has a wife as pretty as Obama's is...but I can not vote for him anymore than I could anyone else...except for Nader of course. Because scratch Obama and you will find a male white corporate mind underneath those tan lines of his just like you would find under Hillary's creeping flesh. As for McCain, and despite the profound respect I have for anyone who can survive being held in captivity like he was...he is simply raving nuts. And I am not even going to try to go into the fact that he is living in another century entirely. In some far distant past and well before this century where dam near all life on the planet could be wiped out in a final war...that no body wants and too many are looking forward to.
But getting back to the man in question and the target of another of greens venum. There is something drastically wrong with Obama. He actually views Backwater as some kind of legitimate gang which is entitled to anything but all of them being arrested...and the top echelon of them executed for war crimes. War crimes of course being the ONLY crime that I support the death penalty for and while it isn't an easy thing to do...I will make an exception for cocksucking homophobic motherfuckers capable of such horrific acts as theirs by happily pulling the switch on all of them myself. But then of course I would have to kill my own self as well because I have a conscience and I could not live with who I had become...if I had had to kill that many fuckers in one life time.
I really do not know what is the matter with people and their nonsensical perception that ALL Islamics are hell bent on killing every infidel there is. Because 1 out of every 4 people on the planet are already Islamic...and if only 1 out of 10,000 of them desperately wanted to be a martyr in some insane apostatic plot to enter some FUBAR Valhalla by bringing the dead bodies of more than a few innocent and dead infidel children as an entrance ticket to the heaven of what could only be some god of utter Evil who would want such an offering...I dare say we would already be looking down the barrel of 1 out of every 2 people who would still be surviving on the planet then...who would be Islamic.
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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen
Wow
WTF!!! Aagent Green! You got me here. So all Muslims are our enemy, huh? I'm an atheist and I'm not supporting any of the presidential candidates in the US right now. However I certainly believe in freedom of thoughts and religions for all. Is this all you have for Obama? Is this your way to support Ron Paul? Pathetic!!!