Jewish People Against the Israeli Occupation
Submitted by Couch Potato Re... on Tue, 2007-10-23 15:34.

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Where should we go for
Where should we go for Palestinian war crimes?
By Palestinian war crime, you mean
Palestinians' resistance against Israeli Occupation? Would you consider "the Holocaust" as a war between Nazi and Jews?
No, I meant the intentional
No, I meant the intentional use of violence against civilians, is a warcrime. Don't kid yourself into thinking that it's not a war they're fighting, or that the Palestinians are always right no matter what they do. Both sides are very wrong. Yes, the Nazi's most certainly declared war on the Jews. Are you saying the holocaust wasn't that bad?
Ok I just had to get that off my chest, it's been bugging me for a little while. I'll now slip back into the shadows and await America's destiny.
Genocide, not a war
would be a proper term to describe the situation.
GENOCIDE AS THE SOLUTION TO "TERRORISM" IN THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES? by Edward S. Herman
"The word genocide is only meaningful, however, if applied to mass killings that are part of a systematic program of eliminating an identifiable ethnic, political, religious or racial group. Sadly, this meaningful usage may have application to the escalating violence in Israel's occupied territories, where the conditions under which genocide occurs are frighteningly close to being met. One condition is an extreme imbalance in the forces in conflict that allows one party to kill easily and on a large scale without threat of proportional retaliation. A second condition is that the people of the militarily superior power feel themselves to be special, superior, the chosen people, and those with whom they are struggling are viewed as inferior, dangerous, and even subhuman. A third condition is that the militarily dominant group wants something from the weaker party that the weaker party is not willing to grant, so that a conflict grows and feeds on itself. A final condition is that no outside force exercises constraint on the use of violence by the militarily superior party, let alone furthers that violence by arms aid and diplomatic support, so that the superior group is able to kill essentially without limit.
The first condition is clearly and fully met in the current struggle between Israel and the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Israel has one of the strongest armies in the world, a great air force, thousands of tanks, and the most up-to-date weapons arsenal suitable for large-scale killing, even including nuclear weapons. They have been armed to the teeth and trained by the U.S. military establishment, and that establishment stands behind the Israeli military in a solid alliance. On the other side, the Palestinians have no air force or tanks, and have only small arms--and stones--with which to contest a great military power. Their external support from the nearby Arab countries is almost entirely nominal, most of them dependent on U.S. aid and other support which has neutralized them and prevented any real solidarity with the Palestinians under siege.
The second condition is also fully met. The Jewish state has long treated its Arab inhabitants as inferiors, with Jews the "chosen people" now "redeeming the land" in accord with religious truths (see Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion [Pluto, 1994]). In a 1934 book, Zionist leader Joachim Prinz even congratulated Adolf Hitler for his building a state based on "the principle of the purity of nation and race." The record of denigration of the Palestinians by Israeli leaders as "grasshoppers" and "terrorists" goes back a long way, as does ruthless treatment of these inferiors and discussions of ways of getting rid of them by pushing them out directly or doing this indirectly by making their lives unbearable. Military superiority has exacerbated the feeling of racist superiority and ruthlessness. It may be recalled that the "liberal" Defense Minister Yitzhak Rabin instructed the Israeli security forces during Intifada 1 that they might enter Palestinian homes and "break bones" of the residents without fear of punishment.
Things have worsened since then, and observers from abroad now report regularly (mainly on e-mail and outside the mainstream media) on how Israelis want more forcible action against the "terrorists," widely refer to the Palestinians with angry contempt as "animals," and how the police treat Palestinians with the same spirit as the German Waffen SS treated Jews. U.S. Jewish visitor Rebecca Elswit, recently watching the Jewish crowd crying "death to the Arabs" as the police dragged terrified and bleeding Arab children to paddy wagons, broke down and screamed at the police as they twisted the arm of one child till it broke. She was assured by one religious woman, however, that these were just "animals" ("Who Are These People? My People?," July 31, 2001).
The third condition is also fully met. The Israelis want the Palestinians to accept the settlers' gains in the occupied territories, the Israeli takeover of much of East Jerusalem, its road network that has helped make the residual occupied territories a set of economically unviable and unconnected bantustans, Israeli control of the water resources of the occupied territories, and complete Israeli military domination in the interest of "Israeli security." Having been ground down steadily under Oslo and the "peace process" for years, the Palestinians cannot buy this and must resist in the interest of elementary justice, pride, economic needs, and their own minimal "security" interests. As Israelis do not recognize these rights of the grasshoppers, the grasshoppers' resistance is intolerable and grasshoppers must be treated accordingly. This vicious circle has as its limit genocide.
The fourth condition is the only one that is problematic and that produces some vestige of hope, but even here the picture is distressing. U.S. officials have given, and continue to give, Israel essentially unconditional support for its long-term process of ethnic cleansing and "redeeming the land." They have accepted the Israeli designation of any Palestinian resistance as "terrorism," given priority to Israeli "security," and ignored or vetoed any application of international law to Israel's misbehavior as an occupying power. They have also aided Israel with loans and arms, and even in the midst of Intifada 2 engaged in training programs that would help the Israelis control and kill Palestinian resisters. They have made not the slightest effort to bring justice to the region, so that in all respects they have encouraged Israel's reliance on force and its efforts to break the resistance in the occupied territories.
This has been reflected in mainstream media performance, which has made Israel the victim and normalized its low-intensity warfare and ethnic cleansing at Palestinian expense (see my "Israel's Approved Ethnic Cleansing, Part 3," Z Magazine, June 2001). Israel's demolition of more than a thousand Palestinian homes, large-scale land seizures, and huge road construction program in the occupied territories, under the Oslo "peace process," all in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, have been invisible in the U.S. mainstream media, along with the steady increase in brutalization, destruction of Palestinian crops and olive trees, and closures that have made the indigenous and victimized inhabitants desperate."
Genocide is exactly what
Genocide is exactly what some Palestinians are actively trying to achieve against the Israeli people as well. It cuts both ways. Does it really matter what we call it anyway? I don't know if you want people to think that the Palestinians are helpless, or that when they do fight back they can do nothing wrong.
No one with half a brain would ever dispute the fact that the Palestinians have the rightful claim to the land, unless of course they have some sick religious love affair with Israel, or a demented capitalistic ideal where money, and their personal hording of it, is more important than human life. I just want you to know where I stand on that particular issue. However, I'm not so sure now that the Palestinians actually deserve their own land. Are we trying to replace one evil state with another? Let's face it, we don't need another Sharia-based nation in that region, not that the Old Testament is much better. If Israel was to be completely destroyed and Palestine was to take it's place tomorrow, I promise you the consequences would be terrible for not only the United States, but the world entire. America would not make a friend in Palestine, because quite frankly they have been told to hate us, so they do. If America withdrew support for Israel tomorrow it probably wouldn't make a lick of difference either, they would still hate us, and in a way rightfully so. Either way this works out, no one benefits because of resentment. It's happened 10,000 times in the past and probably will happen until we end up destroying ourselves completely. There are no solutions to this problem because neither side will ever compromise, and if they do it only fuels the resolve of the other. Apparently engaging in rational political problem solving is only seen as a weakness to muggers, and murderers on all sides. And so it goes, on and on, day in day out, until we finally see the mushroom cloud on the horizon that will eventually destroy us all, and rightfully so.