No Less Human than You or Me
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5860087587109244828&ei=QC_pSefLIZLy-gHkxqnHAg&q=israeli+victims+of+terror&hl=en
These victims are the very same people who are condemned on this site daily. Condemned merely for being born, not having any less nor more choice in this. These are your 'Zionists' (really, Jews) that are so hated. SO! It would only be fair for the hate mongers to describe in detail, frame by frame, what each of these individuals has personally done to deserve their death and the blind hatred attached to them.
Oh, also to the "faithful" on either side which believes the land belongs to them. The flesh of your body does not belong to you. You own nothing. You cannot so much as claim ownership of your soul yet you wish to claim the sand of the Earth? Who do you think you are?
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Not the Same, Remy
Ken Driessen
at_lib@hotmail.com
Hi 'Rem:
I like debating with you because you mostly think a lot about your views and back what you write. Besides that I believe you are a kind thoughtful person and a brother. With this Zionist versus Jewish topic I must differ with you. Jews have protested the Gaza atrocity in Israel. They were certainly protesting against Zionist policy. It is well known that a certain sect of Jews, Zionists were in control of the US banking system before and during WWII, yet they did nothing to help stop the Holocaust because they were busy making money off of it. History proves a Zionist would kill their own relatives if they could see a buck in it. Jews are wonderful humane progressive people, Ruth Ginsburg and Russ Feingold to name a two. Zionists profit from the wars they create by selling weapons to our enemies and then more weapons to us to defeat the enemies they created. There are Christian Zionists who constantly beat the war drums. The Zionists were involved in the Iran/Contra dealings and countless other war crimes and crimes against humanity. Please check out the following web sites and prove me wrong if you can. I believe I am open-mindedly opinionated, meaning I base my strongly held opinions on the best documented facts I can find. Although our differences in opinion may remain, we both share a desire for knowledge, justice and peace.
http://www.savethemales.ca/000482.html
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/hidden_history_of_zionism.html
Ken always a pleasure :o)
I very much appreciate your words of respect and kindness towards me Ken, but it does pop the question into my head: 'Why am I a brother, and others are not?' Greed doesn't belong to Zionists alone. I would imagine, though I am not sure, that the distribution of wealth among the Zionist population is relative to that of the world. Probably one percent is wealthy, the rest are miserably poor. War profiteering is also not a Zionist monopoly. My father, who is far from Zionism, works for the Department of Defense making him a war profiteer. Point is you give certain individuals unlimited access to profit and they're going to take it and rarely do political ethics get in the way. Some seek God, others seek knowledge, and still some just want to make money for the sake of making money. Do you not think there are Palestinians who want to prolong this war for basically the same level of reasoning (namely religious power)? Speaking of, when/if the Palestinians decide to stop their end of the aggression and use peaceful means to win their freedom that's when I'll not only support their cause but praise them like so many do. A Palestinian fired rocket is about as discriminating as an Israeli stray bullet, hence how many non-Zionist Jews inside Israel will die? Surely if this is about Zionism the good Palestinian people will skip over bombing certain individuals who took part in the protests, right?
I don't doubt for a second that some Jews not only cooperated with the Nazis but were more fanatical than some SS officers in that sick ideology. The Catholic church didn't exactly help anyone either. Money makes strange bed-fellows. Like the article in the second link says even hardliner (to say the least) Reinhardt Heydrich had good will towards the Zionists because they made him and his wealthy.
But the fact still remains, neither side can claim the all-important moral high ground until the cycle of violence and hatred is broken. This is the land that will bring victory to whichever side finds it first and in time all sides.
Anyway, always nice to hear from you Ken, take the best care of yourself.