PUPPET Debate Show
THEME
A tale of Tail....
Freedom to ask all kinds of questions
eg -when did human beings lose their tail in the evolution
process ?
if people have evolved from monkeys then
it is possible that human had tails and wings....
which somehow....vanished...
form a crawling being to a more head being..
meaning human being next stage of evolution is
the brain....if only less than 5-25% of how the brain
functions is known....
eg -why do some animals have tails and for what purposes?
---monkey has a tail ...to help it balance on tree
--- why do DOGS have tails... some dogs
don't even know they have tails and keep chasing their
tails..
----a Lizard has a tail which it used as defense tool...
( a disposable tail)
---- a crocodile has a tail to help move its build
built body ...so i guess the tail ...gives some power to
move...
----most aquatic animals have tails...and like fins
mostly ....i guess...tails are need to move in water....
----birds have tails.....to give direction in wind and balance...
----cows and lions have tails...long tails with hair..to
shoo insects and parasites...
----who else has a tail....
oops a pig also has a tail...a tiny twisted one...
also Horses have a tail....which is quite unique
...hair tail...suppose one cut the horses tail...make a hair wig,
and compared the running time.....is there
a relation between the tail and the running time....
does a rabbit have a tail?
a tadpole had a tail which got converted.
a tail of a SCORPION is no ordinary tail?why
which creature likes to show off its beautiful tail
...peacock
either a tail has a logical purpose or if it exist...then
some use or purpose is given....
eg if one has to make a robot moving in water
it may need to have a tail...
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THEME
MOSQUITOES and breeding
say there is a marshy place.....mosquitoes
breed there.....there iS no control on the breeding
of next generation of mosquitoes......
on the other hand if there is a pond with stagnant
water.....and mosquitoes breed there.....
as soon as the new mosquitoes are born...one
DRAIN the pond and the next generation of mosquitoes
are eliminated.....controlled breeding
Now the question is how many time a set of mosquitoes
can breed in its life cycle and timing of the same....
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THEME
Are all ye men Born EQUAL ?
not at all....
1.some people are born more beautiful
than others...
features,etc ...some say it is discrimination...
but it is a fact......
people by nature like to see things pleasing...
some people are more pleasing to look at...
why do people hit a lizard or a cockroach
because it looks ugly unless the the creature
communicates back and say it is not all that bad...
Point 2 ----all people are not born with equal
opportunites
eg some people born in poor hut and some people
born in a rich family...
Point 3 ---Genes
some people may not be born with the same
IQ or intelligence or talent and gifts......
etc
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CONCLUSION
Because all PEOPLE ARE NOT BORN EQUAL
it is not possible to get rid of inequality
but one can get rid of poverty..ensure
every person have BASIC facilities....
eg if a rich man stay in a LUXURIOUS place
while a poor man live in hut.....
to lessen the so called difference.....
GOVT or prominant people can DEVELOP
OPEN spaces like gardens,etc " called places
of common use " where all kinds of people
rich and poor,old and young,animals and humans
all alike can meet and unite...
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ARE ALL ye man are made equal by Death....
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YET all people are BORN equal to make a Free choice
of improving themselves and others....
eg mixing of genes.
eg a high IQ genius to inventing an idea
for the benefit of all people
etc
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THEME
there are invisible seeds floating in the wind...
On what bases
suppose there is pot full of soil and mud
and it is kept in the open....
after some time....a tiny plant starts growing....
now the question is
HOW DID this TREE start growing without anyone
planting "any seeds"
It only means some invisible seed took root ...
thus there invisible seeds ...like dust particles floating around ....
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UK and Europe
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UK and others have developed the regions but
not the Tolerance of the culture....
Today when people develop any country
in the name of ECONOMICS
and make that country STRONG......
WHO you are trying to make strong!!!!!!!
Because the economics make be GOOD business
but may not be GOOD politics...
eg if you have white ants in your house
and some baby white ants have no food....will
you provide them with food.....why not??
because white ants are PESTS.....
Similarly ONE has to be careful who and what
"you try to develop and modernise" otherwise
the same people who you try to HELP
will DESTABILISE your position
eg IRAN .....UK helped in IRAN progress
yet....---good economics
but the same UK business CAN THEY
influence the iran leader not to "go Nuclear'
so what is good economics and profit making
may be BAD POLITICS and IDENTIY loss...
who exactly are west developing and helping???????
with their TECHNOLOGY ,MONEY,INVESTMENT,MILITARY
etcetc
are you developing the country which
in the future will FIGHT against you....
or are you developing COUNTRIES that can
be ALLIES on many ISSUES and supporters
in WORLD responsibilities......
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THEME
WATER
water is source of LIFE......
Without water.....conflicts can arise....
eg if there is drought...people SUFFER and any
suffering people ....if THEIR NEEDS are
not addressed in TIME....WILL rebel and revolt
and Create DISTURBANCE and destabilise
people because.....when a person has
lost everything they have nothing else to lose
but to create problem and trouble for other people
especially when they see that others are enjoying
while they are suffering
THEREFORE the world need to PAY ATTENTION
to Suffering people......and ensure their
needs are addressed in TIME...
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Organisation of collective effect like World
development ,UN needs to keep
equipment that can be USED around the world
in time of need
eg handy Transport equipment
eg Equipment that is portable and can be transportedeg cranes etc ...
eg Boring well drilling equipment
eg an MOST IMPORTANT ....a portable water
treatment EQUIPMENT that can change
Salty SEA WATER into usable water......
especially when the rivers dry,the lakes dry....
to be sent to those location facing temporary drought...
this EQUIPMENT should be in STOCK in all countries
as equipment of National security priority...
eg COUNTRIES especially Africa .....need
to have water projects....
1.CONSERVE and STORE water during the excess
times.
2.Prevent EVAPORATION ...of water....
storage reservoirs need to be UNDERGROUND ....
3.Purification methods.etc etc
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THEME
Its the Heads( mind) not the tail....
CONVERSTION controversy in Afghanistan.....
Also cases of pamplets distributed saying West
and Israel are terrorist.....
this clearly shows.....the amount of Corruption
of mind going on....."brainwashing and hate"
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AFGHANISTAN people
Most people are poor..
obviously people who only SEE mountains,grass
goat and donkey .....how do you accept them
to understand ADVANCE concepts like democracy
and HUMANITY....
Meaning ....the MINDS OF PEOPLE there are
BACKWARD in nature.....CLOSE MINDED SOCIETY...
to solve the issue......these backward people
need to connect their minds to what is happening...
eg TOUR to Disny land ...even to SAUDI ARABIA
and See how other muslim countries have PROGRESSED
instead of only looking and mountain and goats....
backwardward people......meaning wild donkey of
a man....uncivilised Corner of the world.....
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Here is a secret what some civilised moderate muslim
said.....
the reason for extremism is due to the HEAD ( clerics
the leaders,the institutions,the education and system etc
) not the tail ( ordinary people)
This moderate muslim said ...I dare not express
my moderate views...because he would be thrown
out of the community and become the first
casualty of BACKCLASH
CONCLUSION
Moderate muslims who are civilised and accept
HUMANITY and integration with the world are at
the risk of backclash of their own community HEADs!!!!!!!
Solution
try the widows ,try the orphans.....try the women
balance....
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THEME
HEAD & TAIL....
1.closed minded people living in closed minded system.
2.closed minded people living in open minded system.
3.open minded people living in open minded system.
4.open minded people living in closed minded system..
....Now
Free sytem in an open system
Backward system ...greatest vulnerability is
KEEPING PEOPLE AND THE SYSTEM CLOSED....
meaning an effect way to fight a closed minded
people and closed system in OPENING the mind
or the system...
the system will not open unless the people mind
opens first.....
meaning an open minded people in a closed minded
system will be able to make the change faster
then a closed minded people in a closed minded system...
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VARIOUS WAYS TO OPEN MINDS -to free flow of
information....
1.communication in various forms and expressions...
2.Psychology -able to know how people think,
act,behave...superstition,fear,ancient stories which
impacted and created an impression on the mind..
control of mind and emotions....
3.language
4.encourage thinking and questioning ..
5.having various cultural activities....
NOT MIND POLLUTION
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THEME ----different kinds of entertaining sports
Sport 1 - an expert in putting a ball in the hole...
Sport 2- an expert in kicking a ball in the goal
Sport 3-an expert in throwing a ball in a basket
Sport 4- an expert in hitting or placing the ball
with a racket in such a way the other side cannot return back
Sport 5 - an expert in running faster than anyone
Sport 6 --speed sports,racing,cycling,...faster than anyone
Sport 7-expert in hitting the ball with a bat over the fence...
Sport 8-expert in rolling the ball and knocking
Sport 9- expert in throwing
sport 10---expert in twisting
sport11--expert in dragging ball with a stick into the goal
sport 12-expert in pushing others
sport 13- expert in shooting.....
what happens if the rules of the game change?eg suppose one increases the weight of the ball,pardon me?
every game is not the same//
spheres,speed and black holes...
game aim
there are 4 main angles to an aim -north south east and west
e-crosswords,e-puzzles,e-Gk-esubject k
which sport is a purple sport?
^%#^$%boxing
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DART CHART drill
the dart hits the inner most eye of the chart....
with telescopic eyes it becomes easy
meaning MAGNIFY efficiency
next example
there is a birdie sitting on a tree
to take a picture shot,this camera won't do....
because this camera takes max 12 feet...
one needs telescopic camera eyes if one has to see
his birdie speck and the features of the bird...
without disturbing it...else it will fly..
EYE scope.....
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CHESS BOARD game aim...
what is remarkable
each chess piece is a unique character behaviour
JUST LIKE every human being is...
meaning how move this pieces intelligently to the goal
horse moves differently you cannot change
the piece but at least ....one can move them
at the right time and at the right place.
some piece walk ,some pieces fly over others
and some pieces are jumping jack.
a pon moves differently....
many people in the middle east play this game of
chess ....
the FEMALE chess piece ...known as the QUeen
has a LOT of power....but so sad the women folk
in the middle east don't have power....
maybe the Scholars need to change the rules of CHESS
game
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THEME
Immigration and the Red Indians....
why would a person want to immigration and become
a 'CHEESE " of other society....
cat should live with cats...-====equal
rat should live with rats....-====equal
A cat living among rats ....-====big bonus good
standard of living advantage...
A rat living among many cats...-====no chances....
meaning...
the cat eats the rat ...the rat eats the cheese...
the poor cheese has nothing to eat...it only exist
for the purpose of being eaten....
so if a person is a cat in one country why should
the cat go to another place and become a cheese
over there...especially when there are unfair
advantages....
so the people who immigrate are people who have nothing
so they start with nothing and get somewhere with
something....
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The RED INDIANS did not get a level playing field
when the settlers from EUROPE came...with their advanced guns and gun powder...
Do you think the settler came to US because their
had some affection for the Red Indians....no absolutely
not.....they came in search of GOLD....
Gold to take back to home (Europe) either
to improve their standard of living and wealth or
to maintain it......
Similarly.....today people come to countries
not because they like the people there..
because they are looking at RETURN on investment...
But some are finiky......meaning random variables
without a clear purpose....like a spinning top with
can take any turn any angle...such people are not
advantages....
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THEME
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WAR and PEACE
the moment people justify use of violence
as a method .....these are signs of war.....
after war there are years of peace...then again
hardliners emerge who preach about violence
again war starts....
So the moment violence as a method is USED
the cycle of violence generates...
meaning when your person dies,you angry,
revenge and then try to harm someone else
and then that someone else,get angry ,revenge
and the cycle goes on....
TODAY....
BIN laden and TALIBAN people ...have created
this situation....after causing SEPT11....
as i said before ISLAM existed even before
bin laden was born.......
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The west especially UK ....should not allow
male muslims to get education ....
meaning the school and universities should
allow only muslim girls and women to get
and education....
this can balance the oppression of muslim women
in middleeast.....this will force muslim parents
to sent muslim women for education because
otherwise nobody gets any education......
meaning empowering Muslim women can balance
the forces of Mars.....
As more are more muslim women get education
they will KNOW their rights ,otherwise
they will remain ignorant and under male suppression...
Once they know their rights,they can become
independant..and then take their own decisions....
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THEME
INDIA
One has to FOCUS in making this country Strong......
Reasons
1.the population in the EUROPE and US are aging
while INDIA there is a healthy growth....
there people should be trained to Carry Democracy
and Freedom values and IDENTITY
in other world by making this country strong....
it will serve as a BALANCING POWER in the world......
2.TODAY 80% of India are HINDUS.....
but the ECONOMICS is unbalanced
eg West have a strong hold in EUROPE
eg MUSLIMS have strong hold in middleeast
but the POOR hindus ( poor purchasing and money )
INDIA Is the only place to make
themselves strong....
that is why i said ...the HINDUS need to develop
INDIA into a Strong country to protect its IDENTITY
TODAY HINDUS don't figure in the ECONOMICS
game power..meaning hindus don't have FUNDS
to even buy their own land in their own strong holds.......
VOTING and Elections
today if each hindu votes the power structure would
change.....UNFORTUNATELY....many people could
not find THEIR NAMES IN THE BALLOT list....
that is why it is imporant to HAVE A PROPER CENSUS
and record the name and ensure people vote
On the other hands thousand of REFUGIES and ILLEGAL
MUSLIMS from Bangladesh,Kashmir etc are coming
...they along with a WELL ORGANISED mulla -political
leader...are able to register and get their names
in the voting list...Muslims take their voting serious
each and every muslim exercise their vote
but HINDUS apart from having POOR economics
and purchasing power,can't even ORGANISE THEIR
VOTE BANK and ensure each and every HINDU
name is registered and voting.....
ALL the lacs and thousand of illegal muslim staying need to be Repatriated but in the name of Secularism etc .....somehow matter skip attention...
eg many political leaders depend on these ILLEGAL
VOTES.....
People who come by the legal channel need
to be aborbed,people need to play by the rules...
What happened in Riots in Gujarat .....is not RIGHT
....Some hindus also are extremists who believe
in killing innocent people.....hooliganism behaviour
...today people need to play by the rules and
not by hate.....
secondly a proper census of WHO is WHO and
proper documents are needs.TODAY in INDIA
the BIGGEST loophole is people don't even know
who is staying in the country......and less
check on immigrates flowing from other muslim
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WHY I would like to SEE EUROPE and US
make INDIA strong by investing their
money and tech and energy ideas for the future
1.to balance the growing Islam power in Asia
2.it share some comon identity like democracy
and freedom values
etc
HOW to make INDIA strong
1.FIRST energy dependance ---either new
tech or discovery of OIL and GAS in the indian ocean
need to step with fast PACE....
2.Education with freedom values
3.Come with the tech and develop the infrastructure
etc
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SOLAR SYSTEM
every planet has a purpose and a magetic pull.....today jupitor is large it protect the earth from stray object
...
similar .....one need to find areas of common IDENTITY
and BALANCE POWER in the world....
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In this entire show i like to CLARIFY
-----ISLAM is not BAD.....
what iam saying is IAM a pessimist of ISLAM...
because of violence...backclash,and the TALIBAN
style of interpretation of Islam.....
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Theme
A joke on one puppet named Putin ....
....Picture Putin sitting on a throne....the only thing
missing is a CROWN of shining jewels
....I used to wonder why this puppet hardly talks
i think this puppet received intelligence training
as result......unconsciously....talking less is better
least someone eve drops.
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THEME
discussion to understand some issues of
controversy ....
Minds meet
Most people feel HINDUS worship statue
of different animals etc....
what i think about it...
we all have our own STATUEs created
eg Materialism,immorality,terrorism,etc these
are more dangerous STATUEs....
NEXT
i don't worship any STATUTE because iam not
convinced LOGICALLY or SCIENTIFICALLY...
Logically
As per what i know of....IF there is incarnation
meaning depending on GOOD deeds in past
life ..people are born in a better life...something like this
so if one was a butterfly in the earlier life depending
on your good deeds you are promoted to a HIGHER
LIVING system....if this is true
then ...DONT you think BEING BORN a HUMAN BEING
is a higher state of life....
in other words....to kill a human being is a more
serious crime than killing an animal....because human being are having a higher incarnation than animals....
And after human being depending on how one live
one become a HIGHER BEING ...diving children of GOD
so a HUMAN BEING having a soul worhiping
STATUTE of ANIMALS is conflict of logical reasoning
Animals are lower than HUMAN being with a soul....
Ofcourse i agree one must Treat Animals with
care and not cruelty...not i certainly don't accept
worhipping them....
CONCLUSION
What is most important is the PERSON Who
created the ANIMAL....GOd the creator
people need to worship GOD the creator
because HE CAN CREATE MORE ANIMALS...
So instead of worshipping the COW i prefer
to worhip the God who created the COW....
SO the point of equilibrium is that there is only one
creator...people call HIM all different names....
-------dated till the Statute of Liberty Sits by itself
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If a person reads a book----can you say the person is reading to himself
if a kid plays with a toy---can you say the kid
is playing with himself
if a person plays music....can you can the person
is playing or listen to himself...
if a news reporter talks,can you can the person is
talking to himself...the sound bites travel and reach
the antennae to anyone anywhere anytime....
well...iam not talking to myself ..iam giving a speech
on a media world wide web ,creating awareness,a different view of things...
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THEME
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Here is a saying.....or a fact
if you put "something" in a system ...
unless you know how the system works ,you will not know how the something will work...
and if you don't know how the something works
you have lost control of that something......
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Eg if you put your money is a new trading system
unless you KNOW how the trading system works
you will NOT KNOW how your money will work...
Knowing the sytem
means knowing the features.....
1.transparency....
2.technical functioning
3.Person operating
4.Access and equal opportunity play...
5.Your data in relation to other players simutaneous
6.Independent checks of the system...
etc etc
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UK
I terribly Disappointed by UK POLICY
1.Today UK is one of the centres of Terrorism....
2.Uk school and colleges are educating muslims and making people over smart
3.UK is a place where cheating money goes....PEOPLE
who rob from there countries seek asylum in UK
because UK is only interested in the money these
people are bringing
4.UK is dependant on the OIL money so many UK
citizens are working pons of the sheiks.......giving
them more ideas how to make more money....
and this can result in all the money funding MADRASSas
around the world....
5.UK believe in DEVEOPMING THE MIDDLEEAST
for whose BENEFIT.......today if places
are developed......the Muslim POPULATION will
only further INCREASE....because more families
will come to stay in the developed places and more
baby boomers......
6....in the olden days UK CONVICTS were sent
to AUSTRALIA......and today a country australia
created sharing same CULTURE and IDENTITY....
7.UK IS SO BUSY helping the ISLAM WORLD
that it is forgetting they own IDENTITY and development of their own identity...
8.THere was a time UK and IRAN enjoyed GOOD
Relations....and helped IRAN OIL discovery....
Now where are your IRANIAN FRIENDS.....
Do they even liston to what you have to say...
so they want to have a NUCLEAR BOMB....
I put my foot down..i don't care if you are GOOD
or a BAD muslims.....giving them the NUCLEAR
TECH will be DISASTEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONCLUSION
we have to be very careful ......not to make
other over smart because then you will lose your position
IDENTITY ......
I have nothing against ISLAM....i dont get any pleasure
saying these things....but i certain DONT WANT
TO give the FUTURE GENERATIONS a TALIBANI
STYLE of Living standards.........
today Women in the Arab world.....talk about
Western clothes.....
i feel people should wear what is confortable to them....
there should be BROADMINDEDNESS
today even if a naked person from in front of me
i have the determination NOT to look.....becoz
i don't make naked people my ROLE model.....
Ofcourse in the west some people are TOO broadminded
the amount of moral corruption in the west...
as a result any thing people say ,see ,hear and do
is interpreted as their so "called role model' that
keep in their mind....
the point iam trying to make is "its all in the mind"
it is personal evolution to follow ISLAM out of
free will and not because the MULLAM will organise
a backclash......
TODAY the ARAB world is Starved of these things
that when they go abroad they like to feast on such things...
there are case of 60 and 70 years old arab going to
other countries and doing all sorts of inappropriate
thing to the younger people of other places..
EVEN THE SEPT 11 SAUDIs..vistied DISCOS why
because in Saudi arabia you don't find discos.....
I believe FREE SOCIETY and BROAD MINDEDNESS
if the best solution...
TODAY when a baby is BORN in the world....does
it have clothes on....no but it has the clothes
of INNOCENCE on....
it is not the clothes rather the MINDSET That needs
to be changed.....
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I remain a Pessismist of Islam.....
I don't like a world where people will have to
live the TALIBAN style....
People should go and Live in places in the middleeast
and see how women are oppressed.....
Women are nothing like slaves........therefore
they make GOOD supporters for Freedom
because women in the muslim world need to AWAKE
up and fight for EQUAL rights!!!
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I am pessismist of ISLAM because......
NOBODY can handle this BACKCLASH factor.....
Why do you thing i speak in riddles .....because
i don't have freedom to say want to say because
it might provoke and cause BACKCLASH.....
Today free societies are BLACKMAILED by backclash
factor.....
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There is so much GOOD the west if doing
eg Take Palestine....so much aid in helping palestinian
babies....but there are the same babies that will
grow up and kill west people babies
eg AID to INDONESIA and PAKISTAN so much quake
and tunnami aid.......DO YOU THINK THESE
people really appreaciate all that aid.....
these are the same people who make BIN LABIN a hero
Yet out of Goodness....and humanity sake we have to help.....the same people who will backclash //////
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...the biggest Mistake of WEST and oil companies
from UK is DISCOVERY OF OIL in the middleeast
this has changed the ECONOMICS.
Why is Economic Power Important
Becoz if a person can CONTROL eco and money
they can CONTROL 100% control PEOPLE lives.....
After the discovery of OIL by WESTERN traitors
COMPANIES ....the middle east has become RICH
Oil has become "Black gold" .....
Today Western business men when they get wealth
they spend it on HIGH lifestyles but when SHEIKHS
get RICH they spend it on ' ISLAM and its GROWTH"
today OIL money has given MUSLIMS purchasing POWER
land,investments ,etc etc
MORE and more money for ISLAM terrorism
means ....even WESTERN GOVT are BOUGHT
by the money.....
Today the Comander and chief of the US forces
say prices of energy will fall......HOW CAN A
person who have FAMILY OIL BUSINESS and STRANGE
relationship with the SAUDI BUSINESS take
decision on reducing oil dependance...IT IS A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST....
Iam Now beginning to LOOK at the IRAQ WAR
from a different ANGLE!!!!!!
1. the IRaq war has COST TAX PAYERS BILLIONS OF DOLLAR ...a deep hole
2. the iraq war has MADE SAUDI MORE RICH...
for even 1 dollar increase in ENERGY PRICES
SHEIKS POCKET are increasing by BILLIONS OF DOLLAR
so more money for ISLAM.....the war risk factor
have further INCREASE the price of OIL ,nearly
doubles the prices prior to IRAQ war.
meaning the IRAQ WAR has make the saudi richer....!!!!
while American are struggling ......
I felt
1.saddam was a bad dictator and need to be removed
2. Once IRAQ started producing its oil prices
of OIL will fall....
But NOW ....i have come to the conclusion
a COMMANDER AND CHIEF of the US forces
has a CONFLICT of Interest as far as FALL in OIL
PRICES....because it will affect HIS FAMILY BUSINESS
and the KICKBACKS from friendly saudi relations
so as only as this comander and chief is there......
OIL PRICES will remain high and will be maintained
HIGH against the interest of the west and its indentity
culture...
Why can't American became like SHEIKS and control
the ECO power......why do people respect
sheiks ...today AMERICANs can become rich
like them......
Unfortunate the fall of WEST is due to SOME GREEDY
TRAITOR OIL Companies and other who have
helped Saudi get rich and ISLAM to have more
ECO POWER and purchasing power
the AMOUNT OF PETROL money coming into ASIA
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLAR OF MONEY
buying and consuming land and everying......very soon
more mosques and more expansions ......can this
is the result of the DISCOVERING OIL!!!!!!
Today if there is a person with Yellow hair and blue
eyes....but what the use of your whiteness if you have no money in your pocket ...
A man with all his beauty with no money is nothing
put a POOR BOY!!!.. very soon we shall see
a POOR EUROPE singing on SAUDI ISLAM tune....
The only way to make YOUR IDENTITY and CULTURE
strong is having control of the GAME OF ECONOMICS!!!!!
Today the WEST Is LOSING ITS IDENTITY and CULTURE
as SHEIKS get more rich.....
TODAY money and wealth affects jobs,affect
purchasing power over land,over resources....etc
I don't like the IDEA THAT SHEIKHS CULTURE is
GETTING RICH while other cultures depend on them
for jobs,and money......
TODAY many people are employed in the GULF
WHY cannot COUNTRIES make their own RESOURCES
STRONG ,develop their own countries ........
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who controls the macro eco factors
1.Interest rates---Liquidity -cost of funds
2.Inflation---prices .cost of raw materials
3.Energy--cost of fuel
4.Currency rates ---cost of trade
Energy high-inflation high-interest rate -high ---CURRENCY falls.....
TODAY
the most important factor is ENERGY
and this CONTROL of energy factor
lies with OPEC.......
ECONIMICS and TERRORISM ..is there a LINK
...the biggest Mistake of WEST and oil companies
from UK is DISCOVERY OF OIL in the middleeast
this has changed the ECONOMICS.
there is a saying a MASTER never tells
all his secret otherwise he will lost his master status...
Today If an Manager has to Recruit people
Psychologically he will not recruit people who
are smarter or more clever or more knowledgeable
than him...because people don't like over smart
people
that is why is most organisation if one have to do
a study....
where manager is less qualified all the people
he recruit under him will also be less qualified....
meaning....so that HIS PLACE IS SECURE.....
similar the discovery of OIL has make the ISLAM
more secure ,self sufficient and less dependant
on west so as to create an interdependence
KNOT theory.....
TODAY middleeast people have become rich by merely
selling oil while the west citizens have become
dependant PONS of their wealth....
IS there a TRAIL HOW ALL THIS BILLIONS OF
OIL MONEY Is spent....
any muslim no matter HOW GOOD
Deep down in this the depts of his soul
1.he will always have sympathy for other muslims
causes....
2.he will always one day in his career and life
want to DO SOMETHING for the advancement
of ISLAM.....
There is nothing wrong.....except Money into
charity funding MADRASS where right from young
stage ......ISLAM is the only LAW....
TODAY muslims don't believe in law....
meaning they only believe in ALLAH and Abraham
Secondly ...MONEY has result in DEVELOPMENT
Development has result in INCREASE in population
and like RATS....the populuation have increased like
rats......
even here there is nothing wrong
the FACT is the USE OF VIOLENCE
TODAY .......i read a book.....Where a Pakistani
wife of a GOVT official happened to READ the BIBLE
and the new spread like fire.....and whole
society then LIKE A BACK CLASH ....tried
to kill her.
today people should have freedom to read all
ancient books ...and arrive at a scientific manner....
similar other people should read Koran to know
about that...both ways.....
TOday the backclash against Liberal muslims in the society ranges
from Death threats,to using the sword to cut head off
,to burning the houses and people.....this is
the POINT where IAM a PESSIMIST OF ISLAM!!!!!!!
and at the rate ISLAM Population are growing like rats
and it needs just one cat to spark unrest ....
there is bound to be a CLASH OF CIVILISATION
unless......one has LIBERAL LEADERS in the ISLAM
world.....
the trend starts when group of muslim families concentrate in a town or areas....then after sometime
a MOSQUE will come ...and also expansion
on the roads,lanes,or within homes in the walls
and ofcourse expansion of FAMILIY member
...gradually the whole environment becomes
Islamic with a Madrasa etc....
Sometime outside member stray into the environment
.....wearing shorts....not because he want to
display improper clothes....but because
HE want to create a SENSE of Tolerance
to accept the fac that some people have the right
to wear shorts and to fine TUNE their rigidity behaviour
and make them more BROAD MINDED ......
Nobody like HARD LEADER.....people want LIBERAL
leaders who are able to BALANCE the needs of
todays civilised world
1.RELIGION
2.ECO DEVELOPMENT
3.PEACE and TOLERANCE with all RACES and communities......
4.Leader who can make the Islam more Broad minded
and less Rigid.....for this some fine tuning is necessary....
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US intelligence ---C.I.A
Iam pessimist of the US C.I.A. organisation....
Frankly this Organisation LACKS credibility WHY???
1.Sept11 is one case of failure of Intelligence
or failure of WRONG INTELLIGENCE....both ways
eg of effectiveness of CIA....
in gathering correct intelligence and communicating it...
2.CIA and the USe of TORTURE is disgusting....
Torture is Inhuman method....
3.CIA POLICIES is that of USING people and Abusing
people and leaving them dangling...
eg They are the ones Who created people like Saddam
they are the ones who trained Alqaeda and Bin Laden
and they are the one who sometimes take the help
of MAFIA people etc....
In other words CIA is an organisation that CANNOT
be trusted....they make Use of people and put the same
people in problems....
Today they support a leader next day they will support
the leaders enemy....
US CIA organisation people believe in sitting in
offices and getting intelligence rather than being
at the ground....
TODAY CIA organisation DEPENDS TOO MUCH ON
OTHER organisations data and input....rather
than have their own methods of verifying.......
Mysterious Murder people and MAKE it look like an Accident.....all these are criminal methods...
Another FAMOUS policy of CIA is the policy of
DIVIDE and CONTROL.how to make one person fight
another person,how to make one country fight another
country.....etc....this is war making policy rather than
peace making policy...@!!!!
Corruption Scenario
Many decision COULD have Commission and KICK BACKS ...meaning an ECONOMIC money Motive
rather than SO called "national security HYPE garb
disguise"
the so called National SECURITY fear psychosis
has been used to FOOL the public
eg there is no need to send TROOP rather
one should have BETTER INTELLIGENCE IN ALL
COUNTRIES working in decentralised and UNSEEN
manner like Al Qaeda model of working...........
Intelligence is not a proper function unit....
MOST DECISIONs need GOOD RELIABLE intelligence
and this function is missing....it is not doing its part
properly.....
Next is the Spooking function of CIA--sniffing
in other people Private lives....NOW a days
people cannot even SHIT in peace without
some intelligence gaget around......Some
people justify such operations as "searching for
potential terrorist clues"
CLEARLY there needs to be more Priorities
like searching for more clue outside US....
in places like Afghanistan and IRAN....
eg Bin Laden even in disguise cannot hide the fact
he is 6 feet + and very few people have such hights!!!
EVEN the disguises CIA people use is so noticable
eg DIPLOMATs ,etc
CIA information Gathering SYSTEM----liase with
New media ,detective agencies and other systems
etc...
Next -----this Distinction between CLASSIFIED
and DECLASSIFIED is such a GREY and tricky
area...
eg Most mistakes and bad decision,illegal,immoral decisions usually go into the declassified category....
Don't people have the right to know...as matter of
fact people with such information can provide better ideas.
ALso What finally comes out of the declassfied
is STERILISED information ....and not the facts
as they should be...
PEOPLE are not fools...!!!!!!!
CONCLUSION -Sep11 and CIA efficiency
THE CIA organistion is the MOST inefficient,UNDEPENDABLE
useless Department of the US.....
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Next puppet Show....
the theme .....A funeral meeting
See all those people dressed in black around
a coffin....
why do people Say NICE things about a person
after they are dead.....i think it makes more sense
to say these nice things when a person is alive
instead of waiting for them to die.
why people are living ....they are criticised,pushed,
treatment....but when they die....all the people
say "WHAT a good Man??" very strange indeed!!!!!
I think ....people are afraid of a dead man because of
his ghost/////
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Anyway....i don't like attending funerals....
last time i attended one....i had a funny dream
"there was a coffin and i wanted to peep inside
and when i did....i got a shock...dead body was
smiling back"
Now especially night time....when it is dark ....shaddow movemnts making all kinds of shapes and imagination may run wild.....
End............
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Theme ----Master -Slave relation....
Domination and submission .....
Master and Slave relation exist in different forms...
Master does not tell all secrets to subordinate
for fear the subordinate will become more powerful....
domination is part of traits of human behaviour...
FORMS....
EG 1 Master and Slave
in olden day KING and Subordinates-based on Birth right.
EG 2 Master and Slave
Family system
the master is MALE SEX
and the slave the female Sex....
this is based on unequal Opportunities and Rights
EG 2 Master and Slave
Socialistic System
the master -Govt officials and those in power of
the resources
Slave---common man
Capitalistic System
Master ----Wealthy and elite --the have that have too much
Slaves ---the poorer
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The puppet show begins
A master was sitting on a separate dinning table
(first class treatment) and a Slave on the ground...
Until another Master came and sat with the slave
on the ground.....
The first Master felt offended and said to the other Master
why are you sitting with the slave that is not your place
But the other master said "that slave is poor ....BUT
I don't want to MAKE HIM FEEL HE IS POOR" else he will
have dreams of becoming rich for the wrong intentions.
MASTER and SLAVE relation
Master -----is the LORD
and slave ...is HIS SHEEP
The Lord Looks and knows his sheep and the sheep
feel the Comfort of the Lords protection...
the Master has thus found a Sheep who is WILLING
out of free will to follow the Lord
rather than a slave with dreams of domination
filled with hate,grudge and revenge to take
the position of the Master.....
Lastly as Jesus said "I your Lord,Teacher
have just WASHED your feet"
So one has a master who is poor in heart,sensitive
to the needs of the poor....
Symbiosis relation
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TOTAL Freedom ......is like Hell.....people
will start killing each others ,doing all kinds
of evil things....so Freedom must be used properly....
Total freedom is not Freedom to do evil....
eg Freedom to kill ,to steal etc.....
Freedom and Rule over animals and birds should be used for Common Good....
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Scholars on Islam Faith need to have a conference
and think on many Issues ,situations and how to deal
with them......
Reason ----INTERPRETATION OF various concepts
in Islam and How ISLAM needs to EXIST with other
CULTURES in the world......
Reason is
1.Religious leaders ----are able to CONTROl
mass with their interpretation
eg Is one says GOD IS MERCIFUL
---questions include
IS God merciful .....
Why is God merciful...
When is God merciful...
and Ranking and importance of Mercy to other
concepts
Mercy is one of Divine quality because one scores
2 points
Point one ----A wrong act is committed...one suffer
Point two ----- no retaliation ....another good deed....
All people KNOW GOD is merciful ....there is PROOF
reason is that ALL HUMAN BEINGS make mistakes
and commit sins....and yet GOD keeps people alive
otherwise Today all humans beings would be dead
if GOD was not merciful...
GOD is merciful because He know Human beings
make ERRORS and therefore want them to LEARN
and change....for the GOOD....
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JIHAD concept
What proof is there???that JIHAD is greater than MERCY....
....Also....
Who gives jihad???
When and WHAT situation jihad given....
What importance to jihad as the concept of jihad
is in conflict with LAWS ....meaning
nobody has the freedom to kill.....
in a civilised society......one has to act within RULES
....legal system
....economic system ...non violent measure like boycott
of good and services to express displeasure at insults...ok
but using VIOLENCE and KILLING is not acceptable concept...
eg People in the world
need to FACE the fact that MUSLIMS constitute
a Sizable part of the human population and contribution to
various activities.....HENCE IGNORING "their sensitivities"
And not Understanding them.... can lead to complications
Today France talks about "integration to save FRENCH CULTURE"
French culture---speaking french,making wines and cheese
If the FRENCH really want to save their COULTURE
the best way is to ASK french CITIZENS to have More
babies and Increase their BIRTH RATES...!!!!!!
One has to ACCEPT the fact that ....Muslim population is
growing with more young people.....
Interpretation of ISLAM and Preaching by the INAMS
need to be understood ......
One thing people need to know 'Inams that preach
for Killing and destruction " is not a true inam of GOD...
THERE SHOULD BE CHECKS on INAMS and what
they preach .....debate on interpretations and HOW
to integrate them with HUMAN society of different
cultures....is very important to ensure human race
is not DESTROYED in war of CULTURE clash....
TODAY WHAT IS the contribution of INAMS to SOCIETY
----do they contribute to economic development
and science and tech....
----do they contribute to removing hunger and disease
----do they contribute to PEACE in the world...
----some of them .....have called for MUSLIM
women to give their Gold to kill people.
If MUSLIM women have GOLD and If muslims have
money to spare for killing..........Don't You think
money and gold can be USED TO SAVE Lives
of other muslims in QUAKES and remove suffering
and disease .........
----Are inams todays really doing good for society...
or RUNNING A MUSLIM MAFIA operations???????????
what if a MUSLIM REFUSE to liston to an inam
----many moderate muslim supress their views
on account of muslim backclash against other muslims...
or be removed from community or family receive
a death threat....
Why is the MUSLIM JIHAD concept become like
a MAFIA concept.....
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All these questions need answers.....
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Coming to EDUCATION system.
In addition to ISLAMIC SUBJECTS....there should be
OTHER subjects like history,environment,science,medicine...
TODAY MUSLIMS are Not the ONLY creatures living in the world..and right from young age muslim need to learn to share their world with other creatures....
and also respect their rights....
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EVEN freedom has its LIMITATIONS
eg ONE cannot use freedom to DO EVIL...i clearly
emphasied this point....
ALso TORTURE OF human beings is NOT RIGHT.....
all those people in GOVT one day will leave this
world and have to give an ACCOUNT of their actions
with GOD....!!!!!
Whenever there is injustice and peaceful ways are
used and yet no justice is done.....
the best is to Tell God about it and let Him deal with the
situation ......
today. ....A Person has what is has ,because GOD gave
it and a person is alive because GOD protects him....
Also spooking in people private lives and misusing
or abusing their positions ....and POWER....
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The 'Toon Controversy...SELF control of FEELINGS.....
1.People need to CONTROL emotions......
2.Person Responsible is Some Danish Newspapers
and YET Muslims all over the world are displaying
retaliations GOING on MAD rampage and destroying
other countries property and making threats of killing people.....
even in Saudi Arabia...if a person steals with his
right hand....his right hand is cut off....one cannot
go on a mad rampage and cut the left hand and the destroy everythings....what kinds of mad behaviour this is???????
Is this WHAT ISLAM teaches??????
Yes....it is has affected Muslim feelings.....
The toons are a SHAM....but one cannot
GIVE importance to it....because if one gives
importance to it....one is forgetting the REAL
thing....
ARE people going to GIVE up everything things
because of SOME people who created
the TOONs.
the toon is just a toon...and does not mean anything
MOST important is PEOPLE need to practice
the GOOD deeds religions tell people ...
eg forgiveness mercy......saving people,
helping sick and hungry etc.......
IF PEOPLE GIVE IMPORTANCE to toons and other
imitations then THEY are INDIRECTING promoting such expressions to resemble...
Story 1
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one day a man was whistling and trying to provoke
a girl......
the girl got very angry and start shouting....the people
in the neighbourhood thought the girl was crazy...
then another girl came and explained to the first girl
that the objective of the whistling is to IRRITATE her
the more irritated the girl got ...more the man start
whisling and even lounder....
So just ignore the whistling and have a strong mind
to Snub and put off the person.....
and automatically the Objective of the man will be
DEFEATED...moreover the world will have more respect
at the way the girl handled the SITUATION....
Also understand the objective of the TOON....
Story 2
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today say a person is walking on the road and a mad
person throws a Stone at him....will you throw
a stone back at the mad person....
NO because the person is mad.....and should be left
aside .....moreover the situation will not IMPROVE
even if there is retaliation.......as a matter of
fact....if you throw a STONE back at the mad person
....the world will think you have also become MAD...
So .....IGNORE and walk away.....else to cure
a mad person one will become mad ....
so FORGET the TOON ....don't give any attention
and ignore it as ...in your heart and mind you know
who is GOD and What he is like......and this cannot change even events of all kinds take place in the world...
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[QUOTE BY= 13th~] Next puppet Show....
the theme .....A funeral meeting
See all those people dressed in black around
a coffin....
why do people Say NICE things about a person
after they are dead.....i think it makes more sense
to say these nice things when a person is alive
instead of waiting for them to die.
why people are living ....they are criticised,pushed,
treatment....but when they die....all the people
say "WHAT a good Man??" very strange indeed!!!!!
I think ....people are afraid of a dead man because of
his ghost/////
==================================
Anyway....i don't like attending funerals....
last time i attended one....i had a funny dream
"there was a coffin and i wanted to peep inside
and when i did....i got a shock...dead body was
smiling back"
Now especially night time....when it is dark ....shaddow movemnts making all kinds of shapes and imagination may run wild.....
End............[/QUOTE]
We're in agreement here, '13th.' But I do not believe in ghosts/goblins/demons/witches/devils/satans/gods/angels/fairies/aliens.
Real life takes ZERO BELIEF.
As for the DeathWorship, well, there are many aspects of it going on here:
1) 'funerary services' are for CLOSURE after tragic loss. They are not necessary, but some form of 'closure-ceremony' IS in SOME situations. Because they are called, 'services,' it is an concocted excuse to PROMOTE religion while standing around a CORPSE.
2) Most people SAY they attend funerals to 'support the grieving family.' That's what they SAY. Digging deeper, what they are not saying is more important, " ... I'm here so I can say I'm better than those whom are not." And, "did you see me?" And, "I was earlier and stayed longer so I'm better and you're not." Therefore, it's not about CLOSURE AT ALL, so what's the point? What is remaining? 'Me-ism' and PROMOTING RELIGION OVER A DECAYING CORPSE.
I usually do not read your posts, '13th,' -- not because they are jibberish or anything like that, but because I pick out a few posts per day on several forums which titles of interest which pertain to what is currently happening here and beyond. So, I apologize for once making an disparaging remark toward you about your expression. I see that you are merely sharing your thoughts. Some will read more of them. If there's something you think is a 'must read' for me, please do not hesitate to email my Priest River email address.
Kind Regards,
Clayton
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I still Need to understand WHAT IS THIS DOMINATION
and SUBMISSION.......
GOD is ALMIGHTY ...yet God does not Use Force
...
GOD HAS GIVEN HUMANs FREEDOM to CHOOSE
and EVOLVE.....
REPECT and TOLERACE for ALL human beings is
necessary.....
Even if someone follows DIFFERENT FAITH.....
by personal experience of Gods goodness and by Role example eventually he will find the TRUE GOD.....
it is his or her PATH of Discovery......
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today i see LACK of respect by MUSLIM for tolerance
of other people freedom and faith...and use of force
to SUBMIT people
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Today if a MUSLIM out of his /her OWN FREE WILL
decides to CONVERT to another faith.....he/she is
CONDEMNED by the Society and Head cut off....
as a result .....lack of tolerance leads to A VERY
VIOLENT RACE.......
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I want to ask all countries in the world....
RUSSIA.CHINA.US.etc having MUSLIM CITIZENS
and integration issue
as A MUSLIM
WHICH LAW WILL YOU OBEY and ABIDE
1.the ISLAMIC LAWS ( interpreted by CLERICS)
or
2 the LAWS of country ,constitution and ONE STATE rule....
If this CHOICE is not CLEAR then
I don't know whether a muslim is innocent or not
good or bad
DID anyone EXPECT a KINDERGARTEN TEACHER
to become a SUICIDE BOMBER???????
What is this submission and domination ?
-BACKCLASH
-boycott of GOOD and SERVICES of countries
and affect their money flows
-to Gather and murder people who have a different
choice and cut their HEADS OFF with a SWORD......
What is this behaviour
A beast has been released into the ham which will
drown in the water of a holy river....
I FORGIVE the cartoon on the Holocaust.....
WILL the MUSLIM people FORGIVE and
let peace reign.......
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[QUOTE BY= 13th~]
DID anyone EXPECT a KINDERGARTEN TEACHER
to become a SUICIDE BOMBER???????
[/QUOTE]
No, but beware the kindergartener...
City Chatter: The Terrorists of Tiny Town: Homeland security keeping our country safe from kindergarteners (hey, they could be Al Qaeda...) News & Opinion
WHILE ATTORNEY GENERAL Alberto Gonzalez assures the U.S. Senate that the Bush Administration’s domestic eavesdropping program is a vital “early warning system” for terrorists, another homeland security measure strikes at a local elementary school.
The kindergarten class at Lakewood’s Taft Elementary was planning a field trip to NASA Glenn Research Center. It’s a popular trip because it’s free, because the NASA staff already has age-appropriate tours that fit well with school curriculum, and, well, it’s outer space, for pete’s sake. They’ve got rocket ships.
And NASA works the education angle hard. According to the agency, “A major part of the NASA mission is ‘To inspire the next generation of explorers . . . as only NASA can.’” And of course they talk about math and science. NASA says about 400 school groups took tours last year.
But school principal Margaret Seibel says this year’s trip for Taft kindergarteners — we’re talking 6-year-olds here — had to be canceled due to homeland security concerns.
Since new security regulations went into effect in May 1, 2005, access to the Visitor Center is restricted to United State citizens. All others might be terrorists.
No tourists from France, no exchange students from Tokyo and, no foreign national kindergarteners on field trips.
“I was told they would not make any exceptions,” Seibel says.
Because two kids in the kindergarten class are not U.S. citizens, the teacher had to cancel the trip.
“It was just a policy that came down from the Homeland Security Department,” said Chief Community and Media Relations Officer Linda Dukes-Campbell. “We are a federal reservation, and we have to work within those ramifications.”
Dukes-Campbell says, though, that the agency is “looking at a policy revision” that might allow kindergarteners onto the federal reservation for field trips. She says they’re “hoping to have language” in order in a couple of weeks.
Get your permission slips ready.
— Michael Gill
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Rotten in Denmark
Flemming Rose and the clash of civilizations
by Justin Raimondo
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8512
The publication of 12 cartoons in Jyllands-Posten, a Danish right-wing newspaper, that caricatured the prophet Muhammad was clearly a provocation – and it has had its intended effect. The editor responsible claims the genesis of the cartoons was the alleged reluctance of artists to illustrate an upcoming children's biography of Muhammad: they are supposedly too afraid to step forward, fearing violent retaliation. All this before anyone had so much as raised their voices over the matter: now, of course, the subject dominates headlines throughout much of Europe and the Middle East.
Riots throughout the Muslim world, demands for the expulsion of the Danish ambassador from a number of countries, attacks on the Danish (and Norwegian) embassies in Beirut and Damascus – this incident couldn't have roiled relations between Islam and the West more if it had been planned that way, which raises the question: was it? Is something rotten in the state of Denmark? We don't know, and probably will never know, but it is worthwhile looking into the origins of this particular incident, because a very definite odor is wafting in from the general direction of Copenhagen.
To begin with, the real impetus for the demonstrations and declarations of outrage coming in from all across the Middle East wasn't merely the publication of these rather juvenile scribblings in Denmark, but their republication in several European countries. If this wasn't a coordinated provocation, then it is certainly an amazing coincidence that it bears all the earmarks of one.
Secondly, let us examine the venue – a newspaper that today describes itself as "liberal" in the classical sense, but yesterday openly supported fascism – and particularly the man most responsible for starting this ruckus: Flemming Rose, the "cultural editor" of Jyllands-Posten, who commissioned the cartoons and now is at the center of a rapidly-escalating controversy.
Here is his Wikipedia biography, which states that he has "links with U.S. neoconservatives," but lacks citations. Rose is apparently a big fan of Daniel Pipes – the controversial anti-Arabist appointed by George W. Bush to the U.S. Institute of Peace – and authored an entirely uncritical profile of Pipes, originally published in Jyllands-Posten and translated here.
Pipes is the founder of Campus Watch, an organization devoted to stamping out any and all academic treatments of Middle Eastern affairs that don't conform to his narrow strictures, which might be mildly described as fanatically hostile to Islam, Arabs, and anyone who opposes his extreme Israeli nationalism. Campus Watch is engaged in compiling blacklists of professors who refuse to spout the pro-Israel party line, and actively encourages students to spy on their teachers and report miscreants.
None of this is mentioned in the profile authored by Rose: instead, we are given a long disquisition on his subject's view of "militant Islam" as a threat supposedly on a par with communism and fascism – again, uncritically, in spite of the lack of proportion evinced by such an extravagant claim, to say nothing of the lack of evidence marshaled by Pipes.
It looks like Rose used to be a laid-back kinda guy, as indicated by his testimonial to the effectiveness of Acem meditation techniques:
"As a journalist, my challenge is to get behind all the stereotypes that both my readers and I bring with us from the past. They prevent us from seeing the complexity and constant changes taking place regarding almost any subject. Acem Meditation helps me discover my own blind spots and thereby write more genuine and revealing articles."
That was then, but now he is talking about the rising struggle between Islam and the West as a "clash of civilizations," and characterizes the controversy over the publication of the 12 tasteless caricatures as being
"About the question of integration and how compatible is the religion of Islam with a modern secular society – how much does an immigrant have to give up and how much does the receiving culture have to compromise."
So much for getting "behind all the stereotypes" and seeing the "complexity" in spite of his "blind spots." These days, it seems, Rose has been entirely blinded by the kind of hate exhibited in those cartoons, which dramatize the neoconservative view of the Muslim world as inherently terroristic – a view that the perpetrators of this provocation were hoping would be demonstrated in the Muslim reaction. Rose argues that the artists who were too afraid to illustrate that children's book were engaged in "self-censorship," and that's why his refusal to apologize for publishing the offensive cartoons is "a matter of principle." But what principle is being invoked, here? A Danish newspaper quotes him as follows:
"Flemming Rose, cultural editor at the newspaper, denied that the purpose had been to provoke Muslims. It was simply a reaction to the rising number of situations where artists and writers censured themselves out of fear of radical Islamists, he said. 'Religious feelings cannot demand special treatment in a secular society,' he added. 'In a democracy one must from time to time accept criticism or becoming a laughingstock.'"
Why are Muslims to blame for the cowardice of artists who insist on censoring themselves? The implication is that these poor persecuted artistes will be on the receiving end of violence, but there has not been a single incident of this in Denmark, at least not that I could find.
Rose and his amen corner are taking up the banner of "free speech," but one has to wonder what their position is on the case of David Irving, the author and nutball of note who has made a career out of denying the Holocaust and glorying in his own persecution. He is currently in jail in Austria for making a speech in which he elaborated on his theories, and thereby committed a "hate crime" – viewed by seven European Union countries, and the EU itself, as an "incitement to violence" against a particular ethnic group, and therefore a crime.
When will Rose and Jyllands-Posten come to Irving's defense? Probably not soon.
The Iranians have come up with a novel answer to Rose and his fellow provocateurs: they have announced a contest for cartoonists to make light of the Holocaust.
"'It will be an international cartoon contest about the Holocaust,' said Farid Mortazavi, the graphics editor for Hamshahri newspaper – which is published by Teheran's conservative municipality. He said the plan was to turn the tables on the assertion that newspapers can print offensive material in the name of freedom of expression. 'The Western papers printed these sacrilegious cartoons on the pretext of freedom of expression, so let's see if they mean what they say and also print these Holocaust cartoons,' he said."
Of course, the publication of such cartoons would be illegal in most states of the European Union, as well as Canada, and the publishers, as well as the artists, would probably be thrown in jail and forced to issue a groveling apology. Rose is supposedly against any religion demanding "special treatment," but apparently there is at least one exception.
This issue has nothing to do with "freedom of speech." The government of Denmark is not about to prosecute Jyllands-Posten, nor will the EU – although they could do so, given the existence of "hate speech" legislation signed into law in both cases. But I don't recall that any Arab governments or significant spokesmen have called for such action: they just want an apology. Not an unreasonable demand, given the circumstances, and, in any case, the protesters are just practicing their right of free speech, now aren't they?
The publication of the 12 cartoons, and the reaction on both sides, is a classic case of how propaganda of the crudest sort is utilized to mold mass attitudes and whip up entire populations into a state of hysteria. Hate and fear are created out of thin air by the most skillful means, and stereotypes take the place of reality as the world prepares for war. That's what this is all about: the hate propaganda emanating from certain quarters in Europe and the U.S. amounts to preparations for war just as much as the manufacture of arms and the mobilization of armies at the border. We are being psychologically prepared for another world war, and the first shots are being fired from the pages of Jyllands-Posten. I have the sinking feeling that they won't be the last…
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Theme is terrorism....
Pessism of ISLAM
Terrorists ---Are people who believe in ISLAMIC STATE and USE of violence to kill innocent people....
But most important their Objective is death and destruction ....to further their Goal of
having an PURE ISLAMIC STATE.....
the process of dealing with TERRORIST should not lead
to death and destruction....
First
scheme of Terrorist ---now is attacking Religious
places and creating a WAR OF CULTURES and making people fight other people.....
I remain a PESSIMIST of ISLAM ...Islam has become a RELIGION Of Terrorists because MOST of muslims prefer to elect leaders who are terrorists ....
MOST muslims are Terrorist ( supporters-meaning
sympathisers of Terrorist methods)....
today many Muslims migrate to Australia ,New zealand
and Europe ....in a FEW YEARS all these people
will form settlements,there WOMEN Folk will sit at home
producin the next generation of terrorists,their children
will learn all the latest technology and create more improvised devices and engage in the GOAL
OF Having an PURE ISLAMIC society by kill all
the others who don't agree with them.
Even New-zealand at the rate of Muslim migration
going on ,in a few years New zealand will become
like Indonesia.
Muslim Immigrant in western Countries Work and earn
and then engage in FUND RAISING contribution for
Extreme groups,Hamas,and charity which encourages
MADRAS type of rigid peple....
There was an instance when it was said if EUROPE
did not fund HAMAS every palestinian person would
which i presume include palestinains living in western countries...SO if this the kind of IMMIGRANTS western
countries want to Have!!!!!!!!!
if i was in charge of immigration.....i would not accept
any muslim application for immigration based on
facts and case studies that there is a difference of culture...
Unfortunately IMMIGRATION PROCESSES all over
the world is EXTREMELY CORRUPT...money and networth
of a people,kickbacks and bribes so that people enter
the country...Especially UK system immigration system
is indeed money seeking system....
TODAY SAUDI ARABIA ..the Leader country as
far as the ISLAM faith is concerned....
has failed to TRAIN INAM and RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF WHAT ISLAM IS .......and Have a CLEAR interpretation
of the ISLAM FAITH....
so many INAMS and MULLAS give their own interpretation
and endose terrorism methods...it is the DUTY of
SAUDA ARABIA to ENSURE.....that any person
cannot become an INAM or a MULLA ....
Today anybody can become an INAM and MULLA
and preach terrorism....
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NEXT
Consider Pakistan and India
India has the SECOND largest MUSLIM population
in the world but because of its POWER of TOLERANCE progress is its Fruit ....today INDIA Had GOOD image
of being a country of freedom of ALL faiths
and RIGHT to LIVE and LET LIVE of all people.......
So why did PARTITION take placePartition took place because Pakistan mentality of
having a ISLAMIC State while the Indian mentality of
having a SECULAR state ....clearly shows that PAKISTAN
will DO ANYTHING for ISLAM including encouraging
and proving safe havens for militants......to spread
the ideology of an ISLAMIC state....
FOR pakistan...other muslims are their brothers
FOR India...all people of all faiths are their brothers
that is the difference.....
If Pakistan has to progress like INDIA...it first
have to get TOUGH on such kinds of People
by Arresting and putting in detention and CLEAN
UP their SYSTEMS including education system...
Some of the rural Pakistan Human resource development
is extremely poor...all these people have become
so over religious ...that any slight provocation
leads to protests....one have to learn to control
emotion ...people are living in a free world
one have to respect other people right to kill...
JIHAD is often said to be "sacrifice"But Nobody has
right to MAKE other people a Sacrifice
by killing them......in order words
the GODS commandment to MOSES is "You shall not
kill" and anyone to kills goes to HELL not Paradise!!!!!
KASHMIR and its Mountain ranges
Today Pakistan talks about Kashmir to the rest of the world....the moment Kashmir goes into hands
of pakistan ......Bill Landen will find many places
to hide in the mountains in kashmir....
Madrass will have all the freedom to teach and create
fanatic populations
and Kashmir with PAKISTAN islamic state ideology
will become an "INTOLERATE Society "exporting
such people to India and to the rest of the world.
Even today there is Proof of Terror camps in Pakistan....
UNLESS there is WILL and Lesson and the right
education ....there will be no improvement...
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Democracy
Democracy fails when the "eligibility criteria for
people being elected is NOT MET"
eg today if there is a Political Party or a Leader
who is a Criminal...meaning he or his party
directly kills people and then stands for elections and wins
CAN you call this democracy.....
It is certainly democracy for the criminals not for
human civilised society.if this is Democracy
why ISN"T all the so called criminals in all the JAILS
not allowed to vote.....!!!!!!!!!!!
today any person or party standing for ELECTION
has to fulfil CERTAIN credibility conditions otherwise is not eligible to stand for elections....ELECTION Criteria norms...
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In my opinion MOST MUSLIMs are Terrorists( sympathisers)
Reason
today if there are two Puppets one teaching about
Peace and the other carrying a bomb.....
most muslims will follow the puppet carrying the BOMB..
because as a said..MUSLIMs BY NATURE are violent people.
That is where saudi Arabia needs to seriously
take stock of where Islam is going,and the kind
of people it is creating ....
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LOOK at IRAQ
even there these VIOLENT nature MUSLIM are
fighting with other MUSLIMS and NOW with the whole
human race........Such Muslims are DISGRACE to Humanity!!!!!!!!!!!
TOday if a muslim does not get what he wants or
is insulted.....they all gather like vultures and kill people....the reason is population has increased
today muslims are found in all areas .....this
has made security an issue.
AND I said before if the MUSLIM people and ISLAM
DO NOT become more tolerant and work
and integrate with the rest of HUMANITY.....it will meet
its destruction in most painful ways....BECAUSE
when YOU use violence...it comes back 10 fold....
it is the Universal LAW ...anyone who kills with the sword
will die by the sword....anyone who uses bombs
and there is Innocent blood spilled will suffer
the same way......( anyone Muslims or Non Muslims).
there is wise to restain and Not have revenge
because Nature and GOD has their own Laws set ..
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SILENT Backstage Supporters of Terrorism......
the Arab /muslims world be it SAUDI ARABIA
,UAE ,QATAR,KUWAIT etc.......much money
is sent in form of Charity ,unfortunately ....much the money going into such MADRASSas and funding such people and thus these countries who support VIOLENCE
violence will come back on them.....
It is only WESTEN technology which discovered
OIL and it is ONLY THIS OIL MONEY that gives
these people SOME IDENTITY and WORTH...
Meaning A Arab with no money ...nobody would
give a second look....that explains WHY the commander
and chief of the US Forces Mr BUSH....does not want
to offend the people who provide HIS FAMILTY business
with many kinds of DONATIONS ....
Anyway....there is nothing wrong with people prospering
except when they try to SYMPATHISE with PEOPLE
like BIN LADEN....
You see if the SAUDI and ARABS follow BIN LADENS
CONCEPT and VIEW Of ISLAM.......all the GREEN
OASIS in the ARAB KINGDOM will become dry and
all the Sheiks and Princes will have to HAVE to join
Bin LADEN in the desert eating bits of scrap....and waging
a war which lead to only death and destruction.....
Clearly......the method of TERRORISM no way
should be AT ALL ACCEPTED by anyone in the ARAB kingdom if the ARAB KINGDOM has to PROGRESS
Yet many still support fund for HAMAS etc...without
any condition put to HAMAS to CHANGE and allow
the peace process to MOVE forward so that both countries
can live SIDE by SIDE....One can get land back
but one cannot get back the people who are killed...
So the ARAB world has to STOP funding Extreme groups!!!!!!!!
Secondly lets not forget...it is WESTERN cooperation
and technology that has made ARABS rich people....
Earlier they were NOMADS....with cattle but with friendship with the west ....more deserts were
turned into greator OASIS ...Clearly shows by cooperation and good will...come PEACE and prosperity
but if you UNGRATEFUL people USe this money to
support such FANATICs and Terrorist organisation
the blood of innocents due to terrorist methods will
also come in your hands....meaning you are
indirectly guilty!!!
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ISLAM
as i said before ISLAM existed Even before your grandfather was born....unfortunately people like
BIN LADEN and ISLAMIC STATES run by religious leaders
have made the PUPPET carry the bomb....
Instead ...people should learn to live and with all
cultures.....
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Palestinian Issue
Road map speaks of TWO countries living SIDE by SIDE...
unfortunately one side does not accept the
RIGHT TO EXIST and LIVE of the Israel...
and all the palestinian and MUSLIM ARAB world
are so HAPPY hamas has won....what is this NONSENSE
Today if HAMAS acknowledges ISRAEL RIGHT To LIVE
it mean Ack the right of human beings to live
BOTH Countries can live in PEACE and PROSPER
unfortunately as i said......i have become a PESSIMIST
of WHERE ISLAM is heading.....one for
Debate
MUSLIM domination via Revolution instead of Evolution
Observation
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Back clash wave takes place is different Forms.
1.taking Revenge in form of Burning structures.
beheading,planning bombs attacks etc etc
Please note there is something called "LAW and ORDER"
and a JUSTICE system to deal with any form of
Grievances......
Unfortunately backclash means taking LAWS in ones own
hand.....
Islamic LAWS verses a country's Constitutional LAW
2.TODAY due to discovery of OIL,any muslim country
have BECOME wealthy and don't know how to spend the money.....AS a matter of Fact OIL money
is soon BUYING OUT ASIA....whether it is Land,property
business and even Political parties and POLICY....
3.It is ok for AMerica to defend its rights because
apart from being in majority there is a law and order
system....BUT what about the MINORITIES living in
places of the world under MUSLIM domination.....
4.today People working in Muslim countries or in MUSLIM
co where the management is MUSLIM .....have
to abide by ISLAMIC LAWS and RULES.....otherwise
they will lose their jobs or get a bad name....
5.today ...muslims are found everywhere .in all fields
right from cutting your hair,to car mechanics ,to
food vendors and .........having People hating you
and only make your life more difficult.....
6.MANY muslim countries want others to RESPECT
and be sensitive to their NEEDS....
But in return are they SENSITIVE and RESPECT
other people rights!!!!!!!!!!!!
However ....CAN a person build a church in a muslim country.....yet in America people allow mosques...
can a temple be built in a muslim country.....
Today muslim can go to MECCA and MEDINA
but consider Country INDIA.....Why can't the HINDUS there (80% of the population ) have their own at least
one MAIN TEMPLE built .....with peaceful consent of
all people......
Today muslims in western countries like to cover themselves but when western women visit MUSlim countries they cannot wear WHAT Is comfortable to them....
7.Even Business are blackmailed by the threat to
BOYCOTT goods and services if Islamic views are
affected..
8.With rising population and economic problems
...rise of extremists and hate for the west....
9.Islamic LAWS does not provide for freedom
need by Minorities....living in Muslim countries.....
there is no Minority commission ....and representation
10. can MUSLIM COUNTRY is RELIABLE ally ????
think again.....
i think they make a reliable CUNNING ally....
see what happened in YEMEN.......
because the fundamental difference lying
in the meaning "ISLAMIC REVOLUTION"
use of force to impose ISLAMIC LAWS constitution......
etc
I feel ....MUSLIM domination or violence black mail
is chickening people.....losing certain good freedom rights and resulting in madness..
Europe is getting OLD and WEAK
and how many war can US fight by itself....
The will to PROTECT freedom is dying.......