Regarding slavery and the Halocaust and the children...of goblue...

I have been commissioned by a rather wealthy individual, who wishes to remain anonymous, to sell off all of goblue's family, and most importantly...the female and the youngest members of said clan...for men of real prominence and importance to enjoy...doing "things" to.

The proceeds of such sale will be used to pay off the finance charges on an all terrain vehicle that will be provided to goblue as compensation and reparations for any suffering he may encounter for the loss of such insignificant items. That is if his own remaining wealth can provide adequate payment for the lawyers he will need to sue in a court of law to receive such compensation...while he is still alive.

So remember...bid high and bid often...but at least bid a few trinkets! Because you never know how life can be bought so cheaply...until you see it being torn from your own arms and you realize as long as it is not you who is being sold into bondage...you don't really care, much less love, who you claimed were your "own"...anymore than you do anyone else children. After all...you have to have empathy for everyone...long, long, long before you can be burdened with having the agony to love...anyone.

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Listen to this guy talking about gas prices

This guy makes some good points. He does swear a lot.




A Hint of Terrorism!


Here you go. Terrorism, use or threat of force for personal gain. Apparently from what I gathered this guy took the oath to protect the Constitution, nowhere in the Constitution does it say it's ok to "kick someone's ass if they don't abide by crybaby's little laws". It's assholes like this guy that I'll tell the ending of the movie to, with a big ol' smile on my face, while he sits there trying to figure out what to say and eventually throwing a drunken fist, which of course as at least most of us know is easily dodged. "I paid nine dollars to see this horrible movie, and I demand an ass kicking!". Oh and apparently he believes that anyone who birthed a child is a whore... And of course they're supposed to stay home, in the kitchen and raise their many, many babies.

He's tainted Pantera too... What a prick.. He was too easy...

GoBlue08, pick a new rolemodel, please for your own sake. Might I suggest Mohandas Gandhi?



Listen Remy

I never said I agreed with everything he says. He does make some good points about drilling for oil in Alaska.

I do think he does swear a bit to much at times.



Blue I've racked my brain

Blue I've racked my brain trying to find a good point. I'm serious.. Are you saying that his silly comments about hippies are a good point? Which points? Really I want to know where you're coming from.



Drilling fo oil in Alaska

I meant he is right that we should drill for oil in Alaska. We can do it safely.



You say tomato, I say

You say tomato, I say tomato.... You say we should drill for oil, I say we should just set it all on fire and be done with it. Glory be to America!!!



"Inspired by 100% pure...HATRED!"

Well, my gawd this guy is not pulling any punches at all in this recent little clip of his. And that leads me to believe he just didn't like any of the R rated movies his mommie took him to at midnite when no babysitter would sit with the "little piece of shit", as he loves to refer to all children, after no doubt being with him for less than 5 minutes at what ever age his mom was trying to escape, at least for awhile, her biggest mistake of all.

But in all seriousness, this guy does have more than his share of serious emotional issues and anger management scars that would indicate that he is in desperate need of some serious professional help. And by that I mean, some kind priest of the enlightenment...should find him to put LSD in his kool aide. Of course I could say more...but really do I have to waste my time saying what should by now be agonizingly obvious?

Such as if anyone sees him they should dial 911 and throw their cell phone at him, so the policia will know where to go to find him? And you should not try to capture him with out back up since he is already heavily armed...with no brain what so ever? However, if you do happen to see him from a greater distance than you can throw your cell phone just run the other way screaming at the top of your lungs, so everyone will be warned that it is coming, "It's that big piece of shit! It's that big piece of 100% pure...shitty HATERED!"

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Haha what good points? He's

Haha what good points? He's a hypocrite. He blames hippies for not caring about people, then says he hopes they die. He also calls hippies, yuppies, which leads me to believe he doesn't know what either are. Maybe, just maybe someone ought to tell him that hippies stand for his freedom, oh and the lowering of gas prices, everyone has to pay it. But I guess the "American spirit" is enough for him. "Hippies are responsible for the high gas prices".... Yeah because drilling in Alaska will solve all of our oil problems. We're still going to have to buy from other nations, and what exactly do you think they'll do once we start drilling? They're going to raise their prices!!!!! YAY!!!! So everyone will end up paying more!



The Intimidator

This is one of our sick citizens...forgive him, he knows not what he does. There are two extremes, far right and far left, both are fanatics.

Beware of getting too far out on the branches.

Classic case of intimidation. Notice the overweight stature, necessary to pull off the intimidation he thrives on. The language is surely an intimidation tactic. This man is a selfish, narcissistic, angry intimidator who thinks he has found his enemy, someone to blame. The American way. He has made very few, if any, good points because he misses the point entirely of sustainability. Not to mention the fact that Anwar has a very short supply of fuel given our current consumption and it's about 10 years out. He hasn't a clue what he is talking about and you should not listen to such sickness.

Finding a new way, is the only way...stop the insanity.



goblue, is it really that difficult to see this guy is a nazi?

"Fuck your mom, fuck your kids, fuck you wife!" What the fuck is he really all about besides hatred? Jesus Christ, he is hanging on by just half a fingernail over the wrong edge from going totally postal or inspiring someone else to! To be honest with you and like it says in the song...the price of gasoline was "...the last thing on his mind." And if you are really into nazism that much and do not want to correct the corruption that has corporations writing laws that they pay off politicians to pass which exploit the vast masses of humanity all over the Earth so they can get even more of those almighty and holier than God dollars along with the power over all of us that comes with those "green backs" and if you do not like freedom being exercised by those who do love, not only America but the entire world...maybe you should seriously think of moving off shore and starting your own fascist neo nazi state...with the wacko in this video...as your new fuhrer.

And BTW, I am not even so god dam big on ethanol being used for energy if it comes by way of growing corn...because the way things work now it will be the same fucking horseshit value system that is used to exploit oil resources now that will have this country growing corn producing ethanol that will replace that of corn used for food or other types of plants...which were formerly grown to feed humans!

Then again, if you and about a 1,000 of that fucking homophobic closet fagot cocksucker in this video you posted here have to die to save the panda bear and to just try to pretend bringing back the dodo bird by building a real Jurassic Park instead of a new Disneyland in Siberia or the Gulag...it would be an improvement over what we have now and just like he said, and which apparently you must agree with his reasoning that borders on a divine understanding of the relationship that everything has with each other, "...that's the way it goes."

On the other hand, goblue, did some enemy of yours and mine put grease on that pole of idealism we have all been pulling for you to get to the top of since we last chatted?

PS.
My gawd that guy puts my so called swearing...to shame! And I will tell you another thing regarding his kind of swearing compared to mine...I thank that cocksucking God Almighty that I pray exists all the fucking time that I am not as dumb a fuck as this life hating freak you say makes good points whereas I am someone who simply detests the complacency of yuppies...and the vocal with talk talk talk liberals, who as far as I can see, are among the loudest of all the silent and openly nazi sympathizers there are!

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Profanity aside, death over life is stupid.

What if he knew that there were viable energy alternatives beyond wind and solar? Alternatives that have been suppressed for over a century, along with keeping the practice up on suppressing energy that could out compete coal gas and oil. What then?



Viable alternatives

keeesha

You overthrow this neo-nazi government and we the people will run this country the way it sholud be.

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keeesha



Jumping in the river

I decided to jump in the dangerous stream of racial discussion while I still could, that being there remains a constitution that allows such things as free speech while prohibiting slavery. Interesting concept you folks are discussin'. reparations. What does it mean? Hmmm. Those who were slaves are no longer here, therefore what good are reparations. I will add that those who died in WWII and had their precious things stolen by the Nazis, may no longer be here in body to complain, but why is there such a hoopla about returning such things as stolen works of art? Why? I tell you why. Because the harm caused by those claiming to act in goodness for the benefit of all can never ever be erased. How can you replace a life? You cannot. How can a family claim harm from something that occurred generations ago? Easy. The long term suffering extends through generations, and the loss is incalculable. The Native Americans cannot calculate a loss of millions of innocent lives and thousands upon thousands of acres of land or sentimental stones set in silver and gold. Nor can the families of those taken away to the Arizona desert, to Parker, to be incarcerated in tents ever be re-payed for the degradation suffered at the hands of a friend turned foe in paranoid delusion and fear. Reparations are but a small act of acknowledgment that by their very nature are no more than an apology through a public admission of wrong doing. I'm not sure anyone has really ever acknowledged a wrong doing in regards to slavery. The general answer seems to be a lack of accountability in that people frequently state they cannot be responsible for things that occurred in generations past. Oh but you can be responsible for harm that occurs this day as a direct result of deprivation and loss caused to generations past, can you not. But people claim that we should forget, and go forward and then degrade those who speak of slavery, saying that people are making excuses for their lack of abilities in the world. So easy to talk. But now I say, Look at the incarceration rate of black men and women in America. Nothing to do with slavery. Nothing to do with having their fathers and mothers struggle to reach beyond the walls of the ghettos and rise into some sort of standard that allowed them to eat three meals a day and be a part of the middle class in America. Everybody struggled. Yes, everybody struggled, but not everybody had land and people torn from their sides. Not everyone grew up with stories of their ancestors taken away. Not everyone grew up in the shadows of abuse or alcoholism or drug addiction that few are willing to question where it all stems from. Suffering is being born, growing old, becoming sick, and dying, but alas, added suffering is having to live a life in the shadows of someone else's suffering caused for no reason at all, but greed, perhaps self centered notions of power and superiority. The only danger in making reparations is that white folk would probably say to themselves that the debt was paid, but it can never be paid in money, only in building a just and free world with equal access to all that is here for all to partake of, fairly and equally. And equal does not mean that if there were only two people in the world, say a five year old and a sixty year old, that the earth would be divided in two parts, no, I mean equal that each would be fed, clothed, sheltered, and work according to their need and ability. Socialism, communism, call it what you will, but nobody owns this earth and nobody should dare to own people, or forcibly determine the nature of another persons life. Call this a rant or whatever, but the truth is that people have been harmed deeply, and it's time to pay up and wake up. Perhaps when we acknowledge the pain, we will all begin to find a way forward together. (Note: Parker is the name of the internment camp where the Japanese were removed to during the the First Great American Freak-Out after Pearl Harbour was struck by Kamikazi pilots from Japan.) Any resemblance to the Second Great American Freak-Out in post Building No. 5 panic is pure coincidence. And to be sure, neither were the first times Americans became un-nerved by a potential enemy. See the Salemn Witch trials, the Marihuana Scare of 1933, and the McCarthy Hunt of 1952. Yes, fear is a part of being an American, but it doesn't have to continue. I vote and will vote in 2008. I'm voting for the candidate that plans to clean the white house once and for all. No more new China, and no more Hillary Rodham dresses, just an old fashioned house cleaning and a job well done. Thanks for the inspiration Zenbuddha. I don't always agree with your words, but I like your overall style.

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Imagine a world where we all work together!



I never said that slavery was right

First of all I never said that slavery was right. I am opposed for reparations. I never owned a slave and never will. Plus reparations won't help the people who were affect. The slaves who went through slavery. Why should tax payers who had nothing to do with slavery be responsible for paying the bill?

Listen you are just an insecure idiot. If you hate the United States so much just move to another country. Go to Cuba, China, North Korea, or Iran. You would fit in well over in those countries. The United States is the greatest country on this planet.

I never said anything racist on this site. Name one time I said something racist? I bet you can't you moron.



GoBlue08, in all

GoBlue08, in all seriousness, explain to me why the United States is the greatest country on Earth.



Remy92 I will explain something

Name one country in which you can practice whatever religion you want? Thats right its the United States. Name a country in which you can critize the government and not be persecuted? You can do that in the U.S.A. In the United States we have a great thing called capitalism. This means if you are willing to work hard you can be successful. I know you more than likely hate capitalism and love socialism. We also have the best criminal justice system in the world because you are innocent until proven guilty.

I know you are going to say are health care system sucks. If it sucks then why do so many people from Canada come to are country if they need an operation? That is simple because in Canada you are put on a waiting list if you need a major surgery. In the United States it is much quicker to see a doctor if you have a serious medical problem. The problem with are health care system is litigation and regulation.

Another thing is if the United States of America is such a bad country then why do so many people from other countries want to come here?



It's my country and I'll stand up for it,...

but I won't stand up for the great divide among races, classes, and gender. Give me gay rights, human rights and free health care, and I'll give you an honest days work. Until then, take your credit cards to the bank and ask how much they are worth? I doubt that worth anything but a debt that can't be paid in a lifetime. If we shared the country we stole, maybe we'd all find a way to get along. Instead, Bush, Cheny, Rumsfeld, Hunt Brothers, and the likes of people with ties to terrorism and capital that is taken from the backs of the poor do not in my opinion constitute the Greatest Country on Earth. The Greatest Country on Earth is a dream that has yet to be materialized, because people are still living in fear. The politics of fear and greed divide us and keep us one step away from the real goal, a peaceful country open to all, with room and love enough for all, and hope enough for all, and courage enough to stand up for all.

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Imagine a world where we all work together!



Jeffry, I hope you don't think I have been ignoring your...

EXCELLENT POSTS THAT ARE FILLED WITH SUBSTANCE AND LOVE! BUT AS WE BOTH KNOW THIS IS NO TIME TO LOOK FOR AQUA LADES WITH SO MANY ASSHOLES RUNNING ABOUT LOOSE...WHO ARE NOT RENEGADES FROM THE CLAN OF CONFORMITY! AFTER ALL...IS IT REALLY THAT HARD FOR THOSE IDIOTS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO THE STANDARDS...OF MODERN DAY IMAGINING IN ONE LIFE TIME?

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Well said.

Well said.



Its my country too!

keeesha

Give me liberty,equality and health care or give me death!

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Pointing out something

In case nobody has noticed, we have been given death now instead of liberty, equality, and health care.



You fuckme, Remy, you!

Look at what Fangs wrote! Why didn't you say we have already been given death? Why didn't I? Why didn't anyone else? Are we now expected to follow Fangs into the abyss of hell because he is not using slapstick and is instead...a poet? Do we owe him an apology for not taking collecting stamps as a political act of treason...should we be there for him to hold the toilet paper for each other in space? Does he have a girlfriend? A boyfriend? Can we communicate on the brain damaged channel or should we wait for further instructions from Nature Herself on why God chooses to be uninvolved...or we would have, for sure, more good drugs available to us all?

It is probably apparent to everyone by now that I passed my psych evaluation. And I am as much ashamed of myself as anyone else is. I even screamed "Nigger! Nigger! Nigger! Nigger! Nigger!..." ad nausea to the imported brown psychiatrist from India I liked tremendously and who said at one point that I may very well know more than he and the other shrink did about George W.'s bipolar mood disorder of spending wildly the inheritance of the next 100's upon 100's of generations to assure, given the half life of depleted uranium, the death of the descendants of mankind...for the next 1,000 millenniums.

Fangs, as you know all channels lead to enlightenment and more apologies forthcoming but you have to realize we had to be cautious...otherwise no one would want liberty, equality and health care who we couldn't scare into choosing something other than death by having the dying walk among them...like George W. et al.

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Ah as I start my

Ah as I start my uber-patriotic festivities tonight I ponder all the great questions. "Where is my cigarette lighter?" "How did Syracuse pull off that domination of Johns Hopkins today?" and of course the ever present "Why hasn't Dubya been diagnosed yet?" Dubya has pre-senile dementia. I wouldn't call it a flat out bipolar disorder, but that's just my opinion. Pretty soon you'll be able to count the brain cells leaking from his, ummmm, member.... I'm not saying this is good, I wouldn't wish this brand of insanity on anyone. He'll drool and slobber and while it may be some sort of biological justice, it's still rather cruel.

I think we could stand to apologize, but for what? He seems nice enough and I don't want to start a war here. He's confused, and rightfully so. He probably thinks we're both either insane, stupid, or the same person, or all of the above. I honestly can see where he's coming from though, we are insane, not stupid, and not the same person, so he would be well advised to consider just which insanity we're cursed with. Perhaps we're psychotic, maybe we're senile, or maybe we just had too much drugs over the course of our varying lives. Did you know that if you've taken even one hit of acid you're clinically insane? Or at least that's what I'm told. My source on this sucks as he's done more acid than Jim Morrison. I get the impression a lot of times that people have no idea what I'm actually talking about anyhow, so it doesn't much matter. Perhaps it's my fault.... Nah... Maybe if we want to say basically "W sucks" we ought to just say it and not go any deeper. It's a catch phrase and that's what gets people attention. You go on and on about something whether it be important or not and people tune out, but simply saying "Oh what a feeling, Toyota" that sticks with people. (I had a video all thought of to post here, by thehill88 who in her limited wisdom must've gotten rid of it. All the people would've thought it was so cute that this bird could sing the Toyota slogan, and dance to it as well, and it would've easily proven my point). YES my friend, I'll admit it got me too. I cracked a tear once and clapped my hands while the bird jumped up and down spreading its feathers all in beat to the Toyota song... But I was drunk! It's unfair to penalize me for that. I didn't go out and buy the fucking car anyway. Get the hell off my back....

So anyway, apologize.. Yes why not? I am sorry, and while I can't speak for you Zen I must say you ought to be sorry too. If we go through life living it the way we need to, surviving day to day with limited amounts of LSD and Ganja, we must also feel sorry for those who aren't influenced by these things, who might have had no way to understand the patterns of our demented and enslaved minds. But remember ol' buddy, that a life without fun is death. Living without laughing is like sitting on the toilet and not shitting, wouldn't you agree? I think that's a fine analogy. Quite possibly the best I've come up with so far. I should probably go on and on about that, but I just don't have the will, and you should all thank God for that.



Pointing out??????????

keeesha

Uh, yeah we noticed. we all don't sit around listing to ipods just to drown the world out. We all aren't wrapped up in the latest and the greatest item on the list! civil liberties for president!

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BS politics

They come here because we more than likely screwed or help screw there country. I am part of the working class and so was my grandmother. She worked hard all her life and all she recieved @ the age of 75 was colon cancer. Now i wonder why thats on the rise? Hmmm it wasn't like that years ago.

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Thank you Ted Nugent

If people watch this video they could learn something.

I must say thank you Ted Nugent.




Word to all the mommas...

Whichever religion? Canada
Use dissent? Canada
That was easy.

A great thing called capitalism.. I don't know anyone at all that has worked hard and been successful. Do you? I mean sure you can throw out the old Donald Trump or something like that, but you don't know him.. I know a lot of people who work hard don't get me wrong, but usually, in fact they always get the short end. I like you GoBlue, because you're an idealist. It's just that I believe your ideals are way outdated, and even Bill Oreilly admits that the "beacon on the hill" ideal was just a myth. For all our riches, and they are plentiful, what harm have we done? Is it worth killing and maiming and sanctioning and barricading and all the suffering we have caused, and don't tell me that we haven't been the direct cause of a shitload of horrible suffering?? How many people are you willing to slaughter to keep the wealthy, wealthy and the poor, poor? Why is it you see such a seperation between we, the Americans and them the foreigners?

They want to come here, so they dont' get murdered in their own countries by us, or because of us. Now I'm not saying that we're the cause of all suffering, but just a huge amount is all. While we're drinking coca cola, coca cola is starving families and by the way these families are drinking basically what amounts to bacteria with a side of water. When was the last time you drank dirty water? This is not a way to judge which country is better like so many people think, meaning who has the better products and drinking water, and military. My vote for the greatest country will be the one that opens it's technologies and clean water to all those around the world with no hidden agenda that smogs the good deed, that is if I were to ever vote on such a thing. Example: "free" the Iraqi people, just don't let them know that it's all about oil, and not their freedom after all they'll figure that out when we start bombing wedding ceremonies and residential zones. Do you notice that nothing good comes from our government? Or rather nothing untainted comes from it? There has never been a pure bill based solely on the improvement of the lives of Americans, it all comes back to this beloved capitalism.

Don't you see that capitalism exists to rob from the hard working poor? The same people you will praise for serving this country are the same ones who are getting fucked by it.

In all reality it seems to me that no one wants to come here. Why would they? Would you want to leave your homeland to go to a whole new land, and for what reason? Have you no loyalty? They think they have a chance to make something of themselves if they come here, but what they don't realize is they have no chance, at all, ever. They come here and get a crash course in racism and nationalism. They hear us say that we are the best and they suck simply because they came from Slovakia, and for some reason they seem to believe this supremacist bullshit. They simply choose the lesser of two evils.

The healthcare system doesn't suck, it's a joke, it blows. What's the number now? 50,000,000 people, all of them poor (go figure) have no care what so ever. Eh well... I hope capitalism works out for you Goblue. I hope when you need a kidney transplant you get one immediately, and if you have enough money you will. But I do hope that no one else dies because you stole their kidney. Or who knows... They might just put you on a waiting list.

Yes I hate capitalism. I have to. I hate pretty much anything having to do with money, but like the rest of you I'm still a sucker.



Remy92

If you hate America so much, why don't you move to another country?



I don't hate America. Man

I don't hate America. Man how is it you can lose some of the respect I have for you, by asking one single question? I thought we were having a nice discussion, giving our ideas. Had I thought you'd try to spin it to make me seem like some enemy of America, I would've given you the cold shoulder. I love how if some people don't agree with the corruption, the corrupted always ask this question. You didn't address anything I said so I must assume that you are in favor of murder and such. So while you may see me as an enemy to this land you claim to love, but show very little, I see you as an enemy of humanity. But I would never ask, "if you hate humanity so much, why don't you just off yourself?", because it's a really silly question.



Hate ? America? Why.

Because in America we are taught something about fixing what's wrong, or at the least have the hubris and arrogance to try and fix things. There is something about the sick and twisted mind of an American mind, when it comes to loyalty to the community of this nation, or so the Republicans would have you believe. Whatever you do, don't ever shut up about your dissent. Heaven forbid that we can solve all our mistakes and problems by fixing or correcting them. Talking about the problem at infinitum is a better course of action.



Remy, this is why I think America is the greatest country...

it has more weapons of mass destruction than any other two "superpowers" in the world. It has more people in prison than any other dictatorship in the world including Russia or China or North Korea or any of them! And it spends less money on social welfare programs...than a neighborhood in Amsterdam. Alright, have it your way...two neighborhoods. But let's not forget the biggest reason America is the greatest country in the world...it is going to be the first one to put a Burger King on the moon!

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



I heard it was going to be a

I heard it was going to be a Walmart... Very disappointing.



Well fuck, tell anyone something about Walmart they don't know!

Mohandus Ghandi! Dude...get my head out of your ass! It is going to be a walmart plaza but the burger king is going to open first and a weekend before mcdonalds. As for the moon, that has already been surveyed and is entirely patented by the walmart corporation because the US is already indebted to walmart for eternity to the tune of 64.3 trillion dollars compounded at interests rates generations yet to be wont be able to understand for "the corporation" taking the moon off of our hands and accepting a 745.6 billion dollar grant to do it for providing the world with a true company store that everyone can work for, work in and buy in...to all the shit they sell.

Hail hail pedophilia roll long live exploitation row!

And yes, of course walmart bribes local officials to get another one of their stores shoved down any communities throat. So do find out who voted for one in your community and see if their car(s) can run on, among other things, the required amount of liberated super glue in el gasoline tanko...or you can always call them from 2am to 5am every chance you get because calling and hanging the phone up on anyone in violation of the Patriot Act...is NOT a crime...or phone abuse by phone company rules or state, federal or local laws. No shit!

I mean...you would not believe what a klutz I have been and repeatedly called the same number of a local government official by mistake at those hours...trying to call the home of the CEO of walmart...or the chair fucker of the communist party in non Tao te Ching Ching land...to ask that pedophilia how many kids employed by the church of walmart...he enjoyed raping today?

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



I will explain something

Does the United States have a high prison rate compared to other countries? Yes. We should be blaming individuals who break laws. If you don't want to go to prison don't break the law. Its that simple. Go to college or get a job. I agree we do need to reform some laws we have. If you want to reduce the crime rate let law abding citzen carry guns. Its a proven fact that guns are a deterant to crime.

As far as social welfare programs. It is not my job or societies job to take care of you. Its your job. I have a saying about children. You breed them you feed them. Its not my or the general publics job to take care of your children. Its your job. I have no problem helping people who need it. However, there is a decent percentage of people who take advantage of the welfare system and who are just flat out lazy. I am a person who believes we should reward good behavior. This is not over taxing and over regulating business. When over taxation and regulation take place its costs jobs and the business can not hire anyone.



this is America

keeesha

Yeah i hope you are never falsely accused of anything or something simply and they give you a stiff sentence and let some rapist off with 3-5yrs. Oh, and I hope you never have kids and your sorry ass husband walks out on you. Oh, and this is america right? That's what we do, take care of individuals and other Countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Keeesha

Keeesha listen you might learn something. The main role of the government is not to pay your bills. That is your job. Another thing it is not the governments job to raise anyones children. You breed them you feed them. Quit looking for a handout. I have no problem helping people who need it. I do feel that people take advantage of the system.

I also believe that anyone who has worked hard has every right to keep every penny they made. For example if you hate people like Bill Gates well go make a better PC system. Two nice bumper stickers. One said "Work millions on welfare are depending on you." The other one said, "Three things a liberal hates. Someone with a job, Someone whos successful, and someone whos happy."



Goblue and ALL others...beware what you say...I'm warning YOU!

You may very well not have a racist bone in your body so you explain to me this statement by a now deceased prophet who knows...your name is the most utterly unimportant thing in the world...once you are dead.

"Where ever there is great wealth it means that a great crime has been committed and if the crime has been forgotten...it only means that it was committed...very well."

Actually, goblue, I would be shocked as shit if you had the immorality it would take to have great wealth...or you would not be here bullshitting with me...you would instead be hob nobbing it with the Paris Hilton crowd and sharing with her that one loan brain cell...they all have in common. And because you are even in this god forsaken FSTV forum damn near as often as I am...I find it utterly impossible to believe you have even inherited any "wealth" to speak of...or you would still be out on the sky slopes of Aspen or some other place the spawn of the filthy rich go to escape their crimes. Unlike Prince Kropotkin, peace be upon him.

Look, I only called you "my emperor" to fuck with those who do not understand, as Mr. Giodani tried to impart to the creative writing class, what "sympatico" means. And no, everybody, it does not mean sympathy...it means a sense of comradeship despite what appears to be insurmountable differences between two adversaries, who can still respect the honesty of where the other is coming from. My grandpa and I had sympatico for one other. My father, on the other hand(may he continue forever now...to be God's problem) was simply an asshole who deserved no respect what so ever..he was a leech who managed to drain both the generation that came before him...and that of his own children who came after him. But that is another story.

At any rate, gettign back to you, goblue, what do you want me to do now? Fight with you over who gets to be Darth Vader...just because in the end...it is really Darth who gives his life to defeat the evil emperor...and not the goodie two shoes Luke Skywalker? Look, maybe we really are only fighting in the heavens over who wants to have the bravery of the "Red Barron" and enjoy in our demise the surviving English pilots giving, who ever it was that died, a hero's send off befitting one who, for so many missions, ruled that battle field in the skies where, if nothing else, even his enemies learned to respect...his spirit.

Then again, maybe like what Humphrey Bogart did in I think it was "Angels With Dirty Faces", the Barron finally said, "OMFG, I found out what they have been doing in the camps...I mean I really found out! So motherfuck this cock sucking nazi horseshit! It has nothing to do with what I was after. I hope those bastards do lose...and I am going to make sure they do! I am going to throw the very next round...which will be forever...my last dog fight."

OMFG! Sorry about that, I am getting off track again, goblue. But unless you have a room full of gold bars and another room to go along with it that contains nazi memorabilia or "jail house art" that triples in value every nano second, near as I can figure out...it is YOU, along with the decedents of slaves, who will get a hell of a lot of reparations from, among others...Oprah, Bill Cosby(And YES...I know he plugs FSTV!), Bill Gates(who got all that money he is giving away by overcharging all of us for fucking Windows and copy writing software others had put out on the internet for free before GNU), the Krupp espresso machine makers(the made the ovens used in the crematoriums!), Bayer aspirin(they bankrolled the experiments that Dr. Mengele performed on Jewish children), that fucking rich ass whore on The View who is a spokesperson for Bayer, that negress "Star" on The View, (who by rights ought to be starved for 6 months and have her feet removed for having too many shoes)and from all the New England families(with the old money that can be directly traced back...to the slave trade), and Iraq's oil(Hey, that wealth belongs to ALL of humanity!), and the sugar in Cuba(That has been turned into one giant sugar plantation instead of leaving it the veritable tropical paradise it was when my fucking wet back spic ancestors from Hispania crossed the Atlantic to conquer my Indigenous ancestors!)! And from so so so many other places, goblue.

Personally I don't need any reparations...I live like a fucking king on SSD and SSI. I mean seriously, I am with you dude...how much money do those fucking rich liberal cocksuckers need before they decide to put there wallet where their politics are obviously NOT...by calling for an immediate redistribution of obviously obscene wealth?

Look at stupid ass Ted Kennedy. What good is all his cocksucking money going to do him now? There he was carrying the burden his whole life of being born with a silver spoon in his mouth to rule, among the rest of us the workers at Mc Donald's he understood so well, and then having to deal with of a case of having an extreme excess of money on top of it, which along with a lot of others monetary power, could have been used(among a lot of other equally more positive things than he used it for) stroke research and prevention? But no...he and his equally selfish dumb ass blond one time wife, like so many other liberal and conservative assholes that manage to put their differences aside to dine on caviar together, had to have the best fucking alcohol that can be consumed by alcoholics at one gala fund raising event after another, a "compound" here, a "summer place" there, a newer gas guzzling pollution causing car every(I am only guessing) year for all of them...and a fucking hell of a lot of other unnecessary and wasteful horseshit.

But remember, the reparations and redistribution of the wealth is only going to work if everyone knows, like you and I do, that the bounty of the bread basket of the mid-west, as well as all the world...belongs to every Ewoke who hungers and thirsts...for no motherfucking cocksucking reason what so ever...than because some obese with selfishness motherfuckers are hording more of the pie...than is their rightful share.

AFTER ALL, LET'S NOT FORGET ONE OF THE GREATEST SPIRITUAL LESSONS ANY CIVILIZATION HAS EVER TAUGHT US...ONE OF THOSE THAT THE NATIVE AMERICAN'S LEFT FOR US TO PONDER...ITS ETHEREAL AND UNKNOWABLE MYSTERIES.

"WE DO NOT INHERIT THE EARTH FROM OUR ANCESTORS. WE BORROW IT...FROM OUR DECEDENTS."

And in concussion...I resemble that remark! I am not a moron! I am a dunce!

xox,
Your zennie

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



You are something

First thing I have never said anything racist. Were do you get off callig me one. Back up your accusations with facts. I forgot liberals like you can't. Personally I think you are an ignorant idiot who needs to get a life.



PS, goblue...

check out those blue links I left for you to click on in this original post to get just an idea of how hard I worked to help you make yourself look like an asshole. Well, that is true...I didn't have to work very hard at all. In fact I didn't even have to work at it...in fact to be honest it was fun. But really...just how serious are you about wanting everyone to know exactly how big an asshole you are, you dope? ;-)

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Now now now, go blue brown cow...

I didn't call you a racist...at least not in this one. And I didn't accuse you of anything...at least not in this one either. In fact the only reason I wrote it was because I so wanted you to understand the great influence you have had over me. For it is because of your impeccable reasoning powers that I have decided to come over to the dark side and become an arch conservative. But now I can not for the life of me understand why, my emperor, what you said was good for the goose...is now suddenly not good for the gander...just because the shoe with only analogous razor blades in it...is suddenly on your foot. Or are you really that dumb a fuck who even in hindsight can not see the ludicrousness of your own arguments you have been using to justify slavery of any members of the human family and why there shouldn't be any reparations for their decedents...or are you just trying to deny seeing those same arguments used against you now, cocksucker? ;-)

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



....!?

ZEN,
of which you know not the practice of zen discourse.
Has it occurred to you yet that these response you're getting seem to reflect that your imposers are not reading all of your post or that they are playing a classic sophistry game?



Fangs, please explain Remy to moi!

Is he already exercising his right to practice braille upon your body politic rather than mine? For what I know not of zen is greater than the amount of Taoism that I understand less of, and which I have already threatened to not comprehend, concerning the emptiness of which I spoke...that can fill a cup of lunacy the size of the largest modern day enclosed coliseum of escapism...that I have no time to bother with.

For I once new a Jewish girl, who like all such trashy sluts made me easily fall in love with her which is to say even to now, who told me of walking the streets of Jerusalem bitching and moaning about the plight of the world...and getting triumphantly bounced from a Chinese chat room for spamming "FREE TIBET!" over and over. Which says it all. And then my beautiful whore permanently bounced me as well from her heart or even so much as seeing the ID zen in chat because my poems are crueler than the jailer she lives with now...even though I honestly still want her to be happy and even if it has to be with no one...but him.

Or maybe I only wanted to milk her mind of all the excesses of wisdom she had from being well educated in teaching me that there were sophist philosophers prior to the Socratic method who held logic in contempt for the very reason it is facetious...because even logic rests on certain axioms which can only be assumed to be true and not provable.

But if you mean the truth is a lie and a lie is the truth...I did one time hear from a woman on a bus ride into the nite that as a possible explanation for the terror...of seeing too much reality. But then again you might be interested in this mention of SOPHISM by me in the way I am fairly confident that you just meant it to be defined.

Then again as we get older you have to simply realize we all are bringing our own traumas, victories, books we have read or didn't read along with a whole lot more lectures we have given or haven't heard to the table...but we are still expected to keep the pace...for as that beautiful 17 year old bar wench said to me when I was 30 and we were both dieing to get into the pants of each other's heart, "You know as well as I do, zen...age has nothing to do with it." And what was my opening line to that most beautiful of all the punk bitches I have ever had the misfortune to fall in love with at first site when she came to wipe off the table I was sitting at alone when first our eyes met? "Are you a slut?" I asked trusting if for no other reason than because I had so much courage from the bottle that she would understand I was already in love with her...and was hoping she was a "good girl" and put out easily...instead of being one of those sluts your mother always wans you to bring home...who never does.

Ahhh yes, and as I told her afterwards and we both laughed in front of the jock who had come to beat the shit out of me for the alleged reason of CALLING her a slut, which was NOT the same at all, and while we were giggling about it and understood...spiritually, even in hide sight now, it took more fucking courage to get to the heart of the matter with that zen koan trying to stop the Hatred...than it did to kill any cock sucking Buddha to attain enlightenment...and that is for god damn fucking sure!

"Fangs and Remy sitting in a tree! First come love then comes a change in the marriage laws...then comes zen screaming up into the tree house, 'I am a bigger fagot than the both of you put together and you girls know it!'"

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Explain Remy?

That would be against the code of inane speech and incomprehensible dialog. Go fuck up a coal plant. Or better yet, go sell some illegal solar panels. I'm an existentialist. I'm paying attention to the freight train of extinction running us down.



Remy, and the rest of you...Fangs just took off his mouth guard!

To show he was trying to keep us from knowing it was never protecting his blood lust desire...to be the first...to enter hell for a heavenly cause! And now he has broken through the code of inane speech which, as no one but the enemy knew, was the last wall protecting the altars of incomprehensible dialogs to begin with. But to make matters worse, he has further taken it upon himself to order having sexual union with coal plants which everyone knows will only cause an immediate demand for windmills if we can find enough concrete to make solar panels illegal...with increased reasoning powers. However, and while, this could all have been accomplished in a horribly peaceful manner if we had started these tasks prior to the use of reading lovers minds it has now come to the point where he is concerned with nothingness but starting a fist fight among heretical Taoists by uniting them with unapologetic Zen students who are hell bent on outdoing their Masters teachings...by becoming the first one to beat the poor choo choo train of extinction into submission with everything the void has to offer that neither Krisnamurti nor the elves at the end of the rainbow wanted us to know about...and we've so little time!

"I see nothing wonderful about ignorant prophecies of doom and destruction when the world could swiftly come to an unforeseen and unimaginable glory...if we would only learn to accept with grace the simple truth"...Art Kleps a now deceased Acid Guru and little known contemporary of Tim Leary, Ram Das and Alan Ginsburg

"Having attained enlightenment myself I can honestly say that it is no big deal and anyone can do it by just taking a little acid and playing with yourself. But can anyone be liberated if they have a truly heavy karma...such as being a very rich man or a very beautiful woman?"...Art Kleps of The Neo American Church

zen's interpretation of that last statement: As inevitable death approaches and the illusion that money and physical beauty has any fucking value what so ever as you go over to the other side to hopefully some place with more tangible spiritual values...those transitory illusions will be more than insurmountable obstacles to those who have lived believing...they are the end all of existence. Ego poor poor poor...the filthy rich jew Boy Family Lol, ohhh me Hashem, don't worry it is not jealousy...it is absolute disgust!

"He is a most irascible fellow"...someone referring to Tim Leary towards the end of his life

"He is a most irascible fellow."...Allen Ginsburg, may peace be upon him and the angels forever protect and pay homage to this nicest of all the teddy bears, when asked of him by a very drunk zen at a poetry reading contest...if he ever heard from Art Kleps anymore.

"The way of Tao is most apt to be found among beautiful women...and not among women with beautiful faces." from the Tao te Ching as translated by Tim Leary and someone else I can not remember the name of and who I cunt find the exact link for on line

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



You know I really enjoy wasting your time

Try not to duck the hard issues, for you'll pay by thinking with your own hammer to your own forehead.

So, a challenge has been accepted. You have chosen to give your life freely and heroically for the fall of civilization. Am I right? To quote a Herbert novel "The forms of canly have been obeyed".

Feign ignorance of the your own existence, see how destructive you become. BTW, we do that anyway.

The true Orwellian wet dream; Everyone who is not profanely rich and powerful, gets to commit suicide in an instant, simultaneously. The rich are poor, helpless and starving out of their own stupidity. At the end of humanity is 18 souls ripping each others throats out for the last morsel of food, followed by a deafening silence......... uh ya, pretty darn apparent.

But, I digress.

Sarte might have implied hell is other people, I disagree. Hell is civilization. Look up a book called "EndGame". If I asked you voluntarily to give up this civilization, never in a million years would say yes. So, this will be done on an involuntary basis. You can't whine about it either.

The schpeil about organized religion and the hopes of an after life. The implication tells us we can get away with anything, including destroying everything, without so much as twinge of regret, because there is an afterlife.

Tangible immortality is within our progeny, our children. We have been conned out of our real immortality and suckered into believing in an afterlife. Now that is the best practical joke played humanity ever.

And yet, what do we do? (you're allowed to answer this question, but be warned you won't like your own answer)



Nature's Gambit

"I do not believe in God and I am not an atheist."...Camus

Which as we all know is blasphemy so...checkmate.

For the non-dualistic principle on the surreal implications that there may, or may not be a God, is neither here nor there. For by any means necessary...I am an avowed atheist who believes in God...So Who Cares?

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



I'm sorry!

Apology for high jacking your topic. My fangs needed some sharpening, before I go and tackle a topic of immense implications. My apologies. I admire Cohen and his Sartesian sentiment.



Fangs, one parting shot!

And now we have apologies all around over who loves who the most! Be well and stay safe! And we all know it is often confusing as hell and isn't always easy to stay abreast of the last post...which finally brings us together before we have to part from our war plans to fight the common enemy of Hatred...on different fronts. And once again...thanks to all of us...for not wasting each other's time.

PS.
Feel free to hijack at will...when ever you are again so inclined! :-)

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"There is no laughter in the covens of the witch...some clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch...and the only man with energy yes the revolution's pride...he trained a 100 women just to kill an unborn child!"...Leonard Cohen



Fangs there is a point, think and figure it out

I always liked tra