Sick of the "Poor Palestinians"

I recently read an article by a concerned and "liberal" Jewish group that if all the families of Zion lighted 2 less candles next Chanakua it would result in tons upon tons of less carbon monoxide, or some other pollutant, being discharged into the atmosphere. I think this is an excellent way to build bridges and foster peace. And maybe we should only light one candle on a birthday cake when someone reaches 21 years old and then light another one when they die...because that would save even more air.

But back for a moment to lightening people on fire and to the incense burning flesh makes...regardless of what race, ethnic group or religious superstition they adhere to.

To recap the current rage. I know that if you are an Israeli, one knows for certain that there is no country called Palestine. It is just the name that the Romans gave to the land after the diaspora began. And if you ask any corresponding fundamentalist nut on the other side of the argument, who is a Palestinian, they will tell you, with equally as much conviction and fervor, that there is no such country as Israel...just because of some other equally inane denial of reality. Which is why today we have a country that doesn't exist, and that is smaller than the size of New Jersey and has the BOMB, that is called Israel.

Now I know this is not relevant to those of you who are convinced that there is a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world by buying every fucking thing and then evicting everyone to the moon but the simple truth of the matter is that the occupied territory that doesn't exist, and is called Palestine, had at least 3/5 of what was formerly also Palestine annexed by Jordan(or one of the other Arab countries...do your own fucking google if you don't believe me). As for myself, I am all in favor of returning the "occupied lands" along with a total disarmament by everyone in that immediate area as a sign of good faith so as to allow all those faiths and secular philosophies involved to be a good example for the rest of the world to follow the lead of. But I am just a little curious as to why that smaller "occupied land" is so much more valuable and of greater importance presently...than the major area which now has become a part of a larger Arab country.

You know regarding the existence, or non-existence, of any county the real irony of it is that countries have been coming into and going out of existence since day one. According to some of the one and only inspired books of God, and not a whole far of of evolution as well, first you had the fish who inhabited the seas, then the birds filling up the air, then the beasts who roamed the earth and then man who took it from all of them. Then the Cro-Magnons took it from the Neanderthals...then modern man came along and took it all from them both. And there were already tribes living in the promised land when God voided their deeds and changed ownership of it once again and irrevocably for ever and ever gave it to a new group called the Israelites. Of course the Great Spirit gave the Americas(some more countries that didn't exist in 2,000 BC) to the indigenous people for as long as the rivers shall flow and the sun shall shine. That is until the white man decided he could void that agreement legally and lawfully by just writing some new laws, which is pretty much how most legal contracts are enforced these days in order to let people know they have got a real good ass fucking by the "impartial" law.

And I know that it is not nice to bring up people's religious similarities at a time like this but if you look in the Quran you can easily find stories legalizing theft, lying and murder all to foster the greater glory of Allah. And if you look in Torah you can find that a spy, who would have had to have lied in order to get into that position, was used in the conquering and the fall of Jericho. And if you read what the God of Israel told the general who lead the Israelites to victory against that city you would certainly see some obvious similarities between those orders and the orders given at the end of another war by a mad man by the name of Hitler, who considered himself to be a Deity. These are the orders of the insane God of those good old days. "Kill everything with in the walls, both young and old. Kill every beast and jackass and leave nothing alive. Take no loot from the city but burn it utterly to the ground. And all those soldiers who take part in the abomination shall be unclean for seven days. But after that...they can party!" Compare that to what Hitler said at the end of the war to Albert Speer. "Burn all the bridges. Kill all the pigs and chickens. Leave nothing for the enemy but a charred ruin."

I do know there are some very minor religious differences that both these faiths have, who have the voice of some insane God whispering into their ear, but lets not leave out the similarities that they also have with all the Christian faiths. A pope legalized torture to extract confessions from any heretics, Jews, Muslims, witches, homosexuals and on and on and fucking on about this Christian boy being used as a sacrifice in some unholy ritual or about what is the center of the universe. Forget the fact that I KNOW the center of the universe is in my own son's eyes. But do let us forget altogether, that at least in myth, Jesus is said to have been born Jewish. So what do the Christians do with that momentary amnesia of fact? They legalized a war against all Jews for being "Christ killers" and with killing God, which is a feat I would like to know myself how to do at this point. In fact, it was the Romans who used crucifixion. Jews were satisfied with merely stoning some one to death on Saturday nite after someone was seen picking up wood during the Sabbath day, while Muslims are happy to remove a child's hand for "stealing" bread or beheading an adulteress. And Christians just want everyone to know that after they get out of "this valley weeping and morning in tears"...they have a far worse one to look forward to for all eternity for playing with themselves...but not torturing people.

Oyyy vey! Dominus vobiscum! Bolah! Jesus Cock Sucking God All Fucking Mighty! What Is The Fucking Matter With EVERYONE?

FUCK GOD! EVER LAST ONE OF THEM FROM ALLAH TO ZEUS! S/HE/IT/THEY IS(ARE) NEVER SATISFIED NO MATTER HOW MUCH BLOOD IS SHED! BUT THEN AGAIN, ATHEIST ARE NO LESS USELESS A PRIZE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO HEART FOR HEARING, MUCH LESS LISTENING ...FOR THE WHISPER TO COME...BEFORE THE BIG BANG!

Hatred and anger are a choice. Consequently Ramchaza is part of the problem and not part of the solution. To carry on with one’s life full of hatred and anger is debilitating as it constitutes a burden. To paraphrase MLK, poor Ramchaza is emotionally deconstructed and lives outside the boundaries of his heart. So it would seem that when Ramchaza says he is “sick”, he knows of what he speaks, but, unfortunately, is not cognizant of the malady. Fortunately acknowledgement of the problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

In the words of JFK, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.”

A story from yesterday’s Guardian…

Israel's shooting of young girl highlights international hypocrisy, say Palestinians

Chris McGreal in Khan Yunis

01/30/06 "The Guardian" -- -- As the votes were counted in the Palestinian election and the scale of Hamas's landslide became apparent to the world, Aya al-Astal drifted away from her home and wandered towards the fence along the border between the Gaza strip and Israel.

The nine-year-old girl's parents realised she was gone as they watched the election results on television. They do not know precisely what happened, but the Israeli army later said Aya was behaving in a suspicious manner reminiscent of a terrorist - she got too close to the border fence - and so a soldier fired several bullets into the child, hitting her in the neck and blowing open her stomach.

Aya was the second child killed by the Israeli army last week. Soldiers near Ramallah shot 13-year-old Munadel Abu Aaalia in the back as he walked along a road reserved for Jewish settlers with two friends. The army said the boys planned to throw rocks at Israeli cars, which the military defines as terrorism.

The two killings went unnoticed by the outside world amid the political drama, but they made their impact among Palestinians angered by demands from western leaders for Hamas to recognise Israel and renounce its armed struggle.

Some Palestinians see the demands as a rejection of a democratic election and as siding with Israel. Others see hypocrisy. They say Israeli soldiers killed twice as many Palestinians last week alone - both of them children - as the number of Israelis killed by Hamas all last year.

"Aya was shot in the neck and stomach. Her stomach was hanging out," said the child's mother, Aisha. "We have no idea why she went there but she was a child. She was so small. She was nine years old. She didn't wear a hijab. It was clear she was just a young girl. This is hatred."

Hamas is responsible for the murder of more than 400 Israelis. But since it declared a ceasefire a year ago the group has killed one Israeli, according to the Israeli government's own figures. Sasson Nuriel was kidnapped in September and forced to record a video demanding the release of prisoners. Hamas said it shot him when the army got close to finding him.

Hamas also carried out a suicide bombing at Beer Sheva bus station in August that seriously wounded two security guards, and it was behind some of the attacks by rudimentary rockets fired from Gaza into Israel that frequently terrify but rarely kill. Hamas said it launched the rockets in response to Israeli attacks.

"Hamas has kept the calm for a year. Israel is still killing our civilians," said the Hamas leader in Gaza, Mahmoud al-Zahar. "Why is it that the Israelis can continue to kill our people, innocent people walking down the street, and there is no criticism from those who tell us we must give up our historic struggle against occupation? Why are they so afraid to criticise Israel but tell us what to do?"

The Astal family is politically divided. Aya's mother voted for Hamas. The child's aunt, Samir al-Astal, backed the losing party, Fatah. But there is little difference in their belief that there is a double standard at work in the foreign demands of Israel and of Palestinians.

"The Americans always give excuses for Israel," said Samir. "Israel is like a spoilt son. They never pressure them. They kill our children and no one says anything. If there is a reaction by Palestinians to these incidents they call us terrorists."

Israel said it regretted civilian deaths but added that they were accidental, unlike those caused by suicide bombs. It said Hamas was "intensively involved in terrorist actions" despite the ceasefire.

© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2006

ramchaza, you are wrong. do your research next time, before making such an ignorant remark.

[QUOTE BY= ramchaza]
I lived there for far too long to feel any sympathy for them. And to see FSTV so PRO PALES is just sickening. [/QUOTE]

In your own words, you lived just long enough to become a genocidal racist.

(note: there is only ONE race of humans: HUMAN. Stating otherwise is a LIE to support HATE.)

Genocide:
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

1. Whether the Palestinians are a race or not they are definitely a national and ethnic group.
2. By repeatly calling the Palestinians, Pales, instead of Palestinians, you demonstrate your racism.
3. ramchaza said: "And no, I don't like arabs, especially arab men. Not one have I ever met could I stand to talk to for more than 5 minutes"
I said: "Wow, what a racist thing to say, not to mention ignorant."

No, it WASN'T a wedding, it was a celebration of murder by the people who would murder any Israeli, Jew, American and whoever else they hate without any sane reason. The "poor" pales brought this on themselves and it's going to get much worse now, as they've elected hate-filled homicidial wierdos. Why do you think they live there? Because NO OTHER ARAB COUNTRY would let them in after lying to them in the '48 war Of Independence. Why don't you go gon over there and help them???? Why don't you, seriously???

HANNUKA CANDLES IN BIL'IN

The soldiers and settlers who looked on from the distance did not believe their eyes: some seventy Israeli peace activists, members of Gush Shalom and sympathisers, lighted the candles of a huge Hanukkia at the Palestinian "outpost" put up by the villagers of Bil'in on their land, only a hundred yards from the houses of the Modi'in Illit settlement.

The action took place on the eighth evening of Hanukka, the first day of 2006. Soldiers in Hummer vehicles looked on but did not intervene.

"Perhaps it seems strange that we light the candles of a Jewish holiday at this place'" Uri Avnery said, "but we are standing here on the land of the Maccabees. It is here that they were born and here they started their revolt. The rebellion of the Maccabees is not only a Jewish symbol, long ago it has become a world-wide symbol of the struggle against oppression, occupation and injustice. The people of Bil'in are the Maccabees of these days, and the occupation is Antiochus." (Antiochus Epiphanes was the Greek king of Syria, against whose tyrannical rule the Maccabees rebelled 2174 years ago.)

The Hannukia (candelabrum), more than two meters high, was constructed on the spot from irrigation pipes. Some days ago the villagers of Bil'in have set up an "outpost" on their land that lies between the "separation fence" and the settlement - a large area that has been effectively cut off from the village by the fence, in order to build there new neighborhoods of Modi'in Illit, which is already a huge settlement. The settlers, all Haredim (orthodox Jews), have been put there by real estate speculators, some of them Canadian companies, who have earned many millions by selling the stolen land. The Bil'in villagers have decided to call the place "Center of Joint Struggle".

One of the young village leaders, Muhammad Hatib, described to the Israeli activists how the outpost - a brick structure - was set up in one single night, in order to thwart the efforts of the army to prevent it . Then eight of the activists lighted the "candles" - actually large torches - each one making a short statement:

"I light this torch for the fighters against occupation and oppression, in the spirit of the Maccabees, who were the sons of this soil!"

"I light this candle against injustice and discrimination, in the spirit of the best spiritual leaders of Judaism throughout the ages!"

"I light this candle for human dignity and human rights!"

"I light this candle against the settlers who take by force possession of the land that belongs to others, contrary to the Jewish values they profess to honor!"

"I light this candle in honor of the State of Israel within the Green Line, a state of liberty and justice!"

"I light this candle against the hooligans who cut down Palestinian trees and steal the olives, and who last year destroyed 5000 Palestinian homes, who besmirch the honor of Israel."

"I light this candle for the love of human beings, wherever they are!"

"I light this candle for peace between the two peoples, sons of this country!"

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en